if I am in the car I use a blue tooth headset. That is pretty loud. For louder ringtones you can get those in numerous places or just make your own, but I gathered it was listening levels you were talking about.
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still using 18.104.22.168 *yawn*
If it's the ringer volume you're talking about, it's a well known problem. Just search on '8830 ringer volume' and you'll see lots of discussion. I like everything about my 8830 with that one exception. I'm hoping it gets fixed in with a software update.
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