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Old 01-30-2008, 10:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I think I'm going to say goodbye to my 8830. I've been evaluating an 8310 Curve for about a week now and I am easily 50% more efficient in typing on the 8310.

You know what else? GPS is on board and I can use it with Telenav or any darn service I would like. I also can hear the phone ring and can take pictures with it!

If you can tell, I have been very frustrated with the 8830. I know there are some obvious drawbacks by going to ATT vs. Verizon, but there are also many gains.

The keys for me are the keyboard, keyboard backlight, GPS with Telenav and the ringer volume.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I went from the 8800 to the 8310 and I haven't looked back since.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I also went from the 8800 to 8310. Fantastic product, you'll love it. Don't bother trying to decide this, the 8310 is the correct form-factor. It's smaller, fits in your hand much better, and yet it is easier to type on it. It's a win win no matter how you slice it.

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Old 01-30-2008, 01:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am sitting back and waiting for a Curve or Something similar to launch on Verizon. It is only a matter of time before they get a similar device.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Cool Blackberry 8830 problem with change language

Hello I have a problem with my bb 8830.
Who can explain to me step by step how to load a new language on the phone?
How can load maps, its programs, and applications that can bb Use?
After installing the CD in the box, the PC colego with bb, but I can not load anything. PC and the phone are among them.
Thanks and sorry my ignorarza in this area.

EDIT: Started new thread here: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-language.html

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Old 01-30-2008, 01:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hello I have a problem with my bb 8830.
Who can explain to me step by step how to load a new language on the phone?
How can load maps, its programs, and applications that can bb Use?
After installing the CD in the box, the PC colego with bb, but I can not load anything. PC and the phone are among them.
Thanks and sorry my ignorarza in this area.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have the Curve through T-Mobile and I was thinking about getting the 88xx but I'm not sure after reading some of these posts.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have the Curve through T-Mobile and I was thinking about getting the 88xx but I'm not sure after reading some of these posts.
You will gain nothing by going to an 88xx other than handset real estate. The 88xx is bigger overall but the screen is the same size. The keyboard on the Curve is actually easier on the thumbs. And it has a camera. No a huge deal to most but the absence of a camera on the 88xx also means the absence of MMS, which IMHO, is a big deal.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How is the speaker on the 88xx?
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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My 8830 rocks. I love it. It is more sturdy than the 8300 to me... my lady has one... it creaks all the time when I press on it. When Sprint gets one I will re-evaluate then, but I love the 8830 now.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yea me too. I love my 8830. But the way I drop it I think it should have a marble casing!

I do have the rubberized seidio case and it has kept me from having to replace several times. But my wife wants a Curve. we shall see.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm going to give an honest opinion, so don't take it the wrong way. I decided that I needed some sort of smart phone and originally got the Sprint THC Mogul. That phone did EVERYTHING. Problem is -- it's freakin' big! A friend of mine suggested the BB 8830, so I got one about two days ago. I must say, although it does a little less than the Mogul and the interface isn't as pretty, the convenience of the size makes up for it 10 fold. I'm very happy with the 8830.
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See I have T-mobile so I'm stuck with the 88xx or the 8820 and I have someone who wants to trade the 8800 for my curve. Don't know. I'm kinda in the mood and looking for something new but I can't really make up my mind.
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How is the speaker on the 88xx?
im the opposite , i moved from curve to 8820.

the speaker is much better on the curves.
whenever i hold my curve it feels like a tiny phone in comparison.

having said that. the battery life on the 8820 is a winner for me.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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First BB: 8830.

As far as an e-mail client - Awesome. As far as messaging - also awesome particularly the BBmessenger.

As a phone - seriously lacking in my humble opinion: Way too much ambient noise is picked up by the Mic. Lousy ringer with no volume control to speak of. No Camera. Although the Bluetooth function does works well, particularly with a noise cancelling headset. GPs is not really practical for use in a vehicle. Not sure how to put this but with my old cell phone, I did not ignore voice mail...with this thing, I do..??

Overall beats the daylights out of a cell phone and separate PDA though...big time.!

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First BB: 8830.

As far as an e-mail client - Awesome. As far as messaging - also awesome particularly the BBmessenger.

As a phone - seriously lacking in my humble opinion: Way too much ambient noise is picked up by the Mic. Lousy ringer with no volume control to speak of. No Camera. Although the Bluetooth function does works well, particularly with a noise cancelling headset. GPs is not really practical for use in a vehicle. Not sure how to put this but with my old cell phone, I did not ignore voice mail...with this thing, I do..??

Overall beats the daylights out of a cell phone and separate PDA though...big time.!

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No camera - the 8830 is designed as a business device to complement the consumer based devices that were being released at the time. there will always be a blackberry series without a camera. The largest single customer for RIM is the US Government and in many many places you cannot have a camera. GPS not being practical to use in the car? I have telenav on my device 5 days a week when I am traveling. I will either put the address in it right before i drive, or i will call it in while i am driving. Now Telenav is obviously not available on all carriers, but it is an example of the GPS system that can be used on the device.

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Do tell. I am in business and having a camera in my phone would be an excellent option...anytime I have a customer that is having an issue with any of our equipment or consumables, an integrated 1mPixel cam would save me from having an extra device to carry with me along with the subsequent transferring of data from one to the other etc, etc as well as give me the ability to instantly send said pic to wherever I have to in order to provide the right info in time to the recipient. Yea, that would save significant time. business use..?? you bet.!

GPS

You may find the gps functions on the 8830 to work fine...for you. Well, that's great and I'm happy for you that it does. In this (my), case I prefer to use a dedicated device: a Tomtom. Much larger screen (4.3"), that sits on my dash, with voice commands + (mp3 to FM) + BTooth to boot, that I find usefull in many situations. An added bonus is that when driving at night, I can "see" the road ahead and know whether a curve is coming up before my Hibeams illuminate it. My tomtom is a full blown GPS tool designed and in my case, used as such.

I'm not saying it (BBerry GPS), doesn't work...just not for my application(s). Each to his own..right .? that includes opinions my friend.

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Do tell. I am in business and having a camera in my phone would be an excellent option...anytime I have a customer that is having an issue with any of our equipment or consumables, an integrated 1mPixel cam would save me from having an extra device to carry with me along with the subsequent transferring of data from one to the other etc, etc as well as give me the ability to instantly send said pic to wherever I have to in order to provide the right info in time to the recipient. Yea, that would save significant time. business use..?? you bet.!

GPS

You may find the gps functions on the 8830 to work fine...for you. Well, that's great and I'm happy for you that it does. In this (my), case I prefer to use a dedicated device: a Tomtom. Much larger screen (4.3"), that sits on my dash, with voice commands + (mp3 to FM) + BTooth to boot, that I find usefull in many situations. An added bonus is that when driving at night, I can "see" the road ahead and know whether a curve is coming up before my Hibeams illuminate it. My tomtom is a full blown GPS tool designed and in my case, used as such.

I'm not saying it (BBerry GPS), doesn't work...just not for my application(s). Each to his own..right .? that includes opinions my friend.

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i absolutely agree, I was merely using this as an example of the device capability.
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I switched from a TMO 7100t to a VZN 8830 about six months ago.

Pros: Big improvement over the 7100t (it's a couple generations newer so that shouldn't be a surprise), especially the LCD readability. The QWERTY keyboard is a lot better for email. IMHO BB's are much better than carrying both a mobile phone and a PDA.

Cons: Before I bought it I read reviews that said you get used to the keyboard. I haven't found that to be the case. IMO the keys are way too close together and the way they're angled doesn't work for me. Worse yet the blue backlight just doesn't work out for me at all in low light. The hugest annoyances are VZN. I don't like the monthly charge for a nav function I'm only going to use a few times a year. Similar feelings about being charged for tethering, but that's because I never use it so it's a "just in case" feature like nav to me. I also don't like the screen dimming feature that senses ambient light. It seems like it keeps dimming when I don't want it to. In the Los Angeles area VZN seems to have developed a dropped call problem. I wish they had a more reasonably priced charging cradle. A drop in charger that doesn't use the USB port should cost about $20.

Curve: The first time I looked at one the first thing I thought was that the keyboard was significantly better. The location of the contacts means a charging cradle for the Curve is a no-brainer.

And just in general, one of my biggest dislikes is that although the way device admin works was great back when BB's were almost exclusively business tools, that split level control doesn't work for consumer devices. At least the BB's aimed at the consumer market need an admin tool that will allow owners to change all of the settings including those exclusively in the IT Policy.

Other general dislikes: I wish they'd find a better way to handle the microSD cards. My old PDAs had SD slots and that wasn't perfect either (cards often got ejected by accident) and microSD cards would be even worse (because if they ejected and flipped out their size would make them easy to lose).
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I love my 8830. The scratch in my screen is my only complaint. And its not horrible but my phone isn't flawless like it used to be.
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