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Old 02-03-2008, 03:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hope this makes sense. not sure if this is old news but I just discovered it and didn't see it posted on the group when I ran a search.

I recently uninstalled Google Maps on my Vzw 8830, and re-installed it, and the GPS now partially works.

I say partially because I can see my location on the map and get directions to and from wherever I happen to be, but I can't get real time live directions as I would on a Cingular 8800. On a Cingular 8800 I get step by step instructions - turn left here, etc - and if I make a wrong turn the map adjusts immediately. on the Vzw 8830 it generates step by step instructions that do not adjust to where I'm going, so if I make a wrong turn I have to generate a new set of directions from that location.
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google maps uses towers to locate your position. it isnt anywhere close to GPS accuracy but it will work. look at the bottom of the screen and it should see "your position within 700 meters" etc
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What you are seeing on the 8830 with Google Maps is Cell Tower Triangulation, not GPS.
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How long since you last used google maps? Sounds like you are talking about the cell tower location function.

EDIT: What Sith and JC said. . . And it is a cool feature, too.
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Now with a cell tower and Google Maps, you do not need to buy the VZ Navigator from Verizon for the $9.99/mo right?
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no audible directions and it gives approximations of location. The most accurate i have seen is about 1/6 of a mile
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Now with a cell tower and Google Maps, you do not need to buy the VZ Navigator from Verizon for the $9.99/mo right?
Can't and wouldn't comment on Navigator, but it depends on whether showing you are somewhere within an uncertainty radius of some distance is good enough for you, versus knowing your exact (more or less) location.
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oh I dont know. I used it on my 8830 at work and it placed my car in the parking lot not more than maybe 40 feet from where I was actually sitting. but if did moves me around a bit, once into the grass on the front lawn! GPS of course does not do that
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Sprint allows GPS to be accessed by Google Maps. Verizon doesnt.
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oh I dont know. I used it on my 8830 at work and it placed my car in the parking lot not more than maybe 40 feet from where I was actually sitting. but if did moves me around a bit, once into the grass on the front lawn! GPS of course does not do that
Ahhh, but the crucial point is you knew you were you were to begin with.
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Um, here's one point I'd make about using the 8830 for "gps" without vznavigator. Cell tower triangulation is nice to know where you are, but doesn't exactly help you get where you're going. If you need GPS, do yourself a favor and get a dedicated gps device. I have a Garmin and would never be satisfied using my bb for that. BB does many things very well, and many things better than anyone else, but leave GPS to the GPS experts. Turn by turn directions with text-to-speech, millions of poi's, big touch screens, loud speakers, handy mounting solutions, all things that make a dedicated gps device worth every penny.
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problem is TeleNav is updated weekly now, whereas your GPS either has to be manually updated for free, or updates have to be paid for. (and i have yet to see weekly updates on ANY in car GPS). I would never purchase a GPS for a vehicle now that i have Telenav, all the features excepting the touch screen are the same for the BB. But to each their own of course
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A dedicated GPS is definitely nice. However, having TeleNav with GPS on my BB gives me all of that and I always have it with me.
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That's it. Convenience. For business travel, I've been leaving the handheld gps at home. Don't need it. But if I was driving cross country, where I would likely be out of cell coverage, I'd defintely take the gps. But for finding my hotel from the airport, or the office I'm visiting, or a place to eat and that sort of thing, the blackberry is perfect.
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And TeleNav even keeps the moving map going as much of the maps are cached when you initially get the route. If you go out of coverage you only lose the reroutes.
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Hi. I am new here. I can't figure out how to make a new post on the bulletin? Can someone help me with this?

I am having a problem signing onto my AIM on my BlackBerry 7290. I type in my screenname and password, and it gets to 80% logged on (retrieving buddy list) and then tells me there was a communication error. Does anyone know why this is happening??
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Well, just pray you don't get a phone call while navigating through some tricky intersection or waiting for a re-route, because vznav stops if you're on the phone. I'm on the phone constantly in my car and mandates I have a separate gps device working constantly.

Like sith said, to each his own. If vznav works well for you, go for it. I'm definitely in the separate gps camp, but can see some good points either way.
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