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Old 02-07-2008, 07:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have tried an 8830 for a week and love it. Being an AT&T business customer, they are really pushing their 8820. I'm new on the forums and would appreciate any help in comparisons between the two.
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similar device. 8830 has locked GPS to VZ nav with the internal GPS., 8820 has open GPS and Wifi. 8830 has EVDO, average speeds 400-700kbps, 8820 has EDGE (and wifi, but that is hard to test speed) with average speeds of 200-400kbps. Other than that, about the same
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Thanks for the extremely quick reply.
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8830 is also a world phone. Operates on CDMA only in the US. Reverts to GSM outside the US.

ATT EDGE average speeds are 50-125 kbps, max 384 kbps, but you are not likely to see anything close to 384 kbps.
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8820 is quad band ie can be used in most countries without having to do anything
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And the 8830 is 10 years older than the 8820. (Yes, my humor is corny like that)
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8830 is also a world phone. Operates on CDMA only in the US. Reverts to GSM outside the US.

ATT EDGE average speeds are 50-125 kbps, max 384 kbps, but you are not likely to see anything close to 384 kbps.
EDGE got a boost in speed on the ATT side not too long ago (thinking August) and its AVG is *supposed to be* 200-400. When tethering i rarely see speeds below 200 now.
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8820 is quad band ie can be used in most countries without having to do anything
the Sprint 8830 can as well, though the VZW one can be unlocked if you ask them to
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Have you tried the 8830 on USCellular? Its unlocked and everything works! Plus, you probably wouldn't have a bad opinion about like you would with Verizon.
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the Sprint 8830 can as well, though the VZW one can be unlocked if you ask them to
Alright, This may sound like a newb question...from what you are saying, you could unlock a VZW 8830 and use on a GSM Carrier in the states? Correct?
I thought that was not possible.
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no, not in the states, but can use a non VZW/Vodafone SIM overseas
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you could unlock a VZW 8830 and use on a GSM Carrier in the states? Correct?
Not possible.
The 8830 doesn't support the GSM frequencies used with the US.
It can only be used as a GSM phone outside of the US.
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US frequency = 850ish 1900, overseas 900/1800
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Gotcha, that's what I thought...too bad, I love my 8800, but the keys on the 8830 feel different, nicer...maybe just me. People think I am weird anyways, since I sold my 8320 to buy a 8800...I just think the 8800 is a masterpiece of technology.
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EDGE got a boost in speed on the ATT side not too long ago (thinking August) and its AVG is *supposed to be* 200-400. When tethering i rarely see speeds below 200 now.
Impossible to go over 384 kbps. Some towers have been upgraded to allow up to 300. The average is still 50-125. I would believe 200 - 300 kbps but not 400.

Some recent reports:

New York City: 184kb/s
Queens, NY: 186kb/s-230kb/s
Chicago suburbs: 160kb/s
S. Florida: 176kb/s-204kb/s
Washington DC: 196kb/s-207kb/s
Philly: 191kb/s-264kb/s
Marion, Indiana: 186kb/s-196kb/s
North Seattle: 190kb/s
Dallas: 160kb/s
West of East Orange, New Jersey: 365kb/s (doubtful)

Also keep in mind there is no real accurate cell phone speed test. DSLreports is sometimes way off, especially if the website is accessed with a proxy server.

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They're like a lot of benchmarks -- useful for telling you how well something runs against the benchmark but not directly relevant to the real world despite the numbers fetish that many geeks have.
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