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Old 09-15-2005, 04:25 PM   #41 (permalink)
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"We expect and EDGE-based BlackBerry 8700 "Electron" full keyboard smartphone using an Intel XScale processor, and CDMA 1xEV-DO-based and IDEN-based half=keyboard smartphones with SureType predictive text. ."
you dont see IDEN-based half keyboard smartphone in that part of the thread dawg?

or are you expecting the 7100 to be released in ever iden market except for nextel in north america

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Old 09-15-2005, 04:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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yes i see iden but that doesnt mean that nextel will buy it now does it? southern link doesnt offer half the phones that nextel does and its iden based as well. Boost Mobile has phones that nextel doesnt and vice versa
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Old 09-15-2005, 04:36 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Nextel will get it. Keep in mind that there's another thread about it, already - the 7100i.
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Old 09-15-2005, 04:38 PM   #44 (permalink)
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i know jibi but I wanted to make my point that you cant assume anything if it isnt specific you dont know for sure
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Bigger pics are now on hofo. You can see on the keyboard there's a new key next to the M key, where the sym key is on the 72xx.
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Bigger pics are now on hofo. You can see on the keyboard there's a new key next to the M key, where the sym key is on the 72xx.
And it is one ugly mother trucker!!!

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And it is one ugly mother trucker!!!

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Ya got that right, why didn't they just stick a collapsable attenna on the thing?
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i'd say that be a violation of their NDA, unless they came from RIM, so you may not want to tread down those waters and get someone in trouble...
There are enough RIM employees walking out and about with Electrons on hip that it's not hard to see one even without NDA (if you live in Waterloo, that is).
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...but this isn't a RIM employee, most likely. it appears to be a Cingular employee, which I will assume is under an NDA. perhaps not. we've had reps show us equipment during meetings, but thats a lot different than taking pictures and posting them on the internet.
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Old 09-16-2005, 11:23 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I haven't had time to read all the other posts yet so forgive me if this is not new info.

Source: Andrew Lee of TD Newcrest 14 Sep. 2005
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"We expect and EDGE-based BlackBerry 8700 "Electron" full keyboard smartphone using an Intel XScale processor, and CDMA 1xEV-DO-based and IDEN-based half=keyboard smartphones with SureType predictive text. RIM's product transition strategy is to have its next-generation smartphones commercially available shortly after being announced, so as to avoid stalling the channel. Last year the BB 7100g (t?) smartphone was announced on Sept. 08/04 and began shipping exclusively with T-Mobile in the US in early Oct/04. We suspect T-Mobile USA may have a similiar exclusive window with the Electron this fall, likely lasting 60 days, and note that the carrier plans to launch an EDGE service across its network by the end of Sept/05. In terms of Europe, our checks lead us to believe that Electron will launch towards the Nov/Dec/05 timeframe."
Good quote. I did hear one deviation to the processor. My understanding is that it is using a special IBM processor that will be running approx. 300MHz at 1.5v. I can't remember the link nor can I substantiate it, but I just wanted to though it out there for you guys to pick appart.
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Old 09-17-2005, 07:59 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Good quote. I did hear one deviation to the processor. My understanding is that it is using a special IBM processor that will be running approx. 300MHz at 1.5v. I can't remember the link nor can I substantiate it, but I just wanted to though it out there for you guys to pick appart.
Not sure about the processor but I heard from a major BB VAR here in the states yesterday that Cingular will be the first carrier to offer the 8700.

This would mean that the info quoted in my first post from the TD Newcrest analyst could be suspect. Also T-Mobile has been cutting back on staff and some key people have left.
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Old 09-17-2005, 12:25 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Also T-Mobile has been cutting back on staff and some key people have left.
I was wondering when this would happen, TMO has the cheapest rates yet 24X7 customer service. Now i'm no business expert but ?????
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the one I saw was cingular branded
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:18 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I was wondering when this would happen, TMO has the cheapest rates yet 24X7 customer service. Now i'm no business expert but ?????
Well so much for my theory that T-Mobile was getting lean and mean because they were going to be sold by their parent company;

Deutsche Telekom Confirms Keeping T-Mobile USA Unit


DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
September 16, 2005 5:36 a.m.

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FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--Deutsche Telekom AG (DT) Friday confirmed it has decided to keep its U.S. wireless arm, T-Mobile USA Inc.

The Wall Street Journal earlier Friday reported that the German telecoms company decided to keep the unit, quelling rumors that the fourth-biggest U.S. cellular carrier is up for sale. It cited people familiar with the situation.

Deutsche Telekom management has long debated whether to sell T-Mobile USA, merge it with another U.S. wireless operator or keep it and continue to invest billions of dollars in its network.

As recently as May, Deutsche Telekom Chief Executive Kai-Uwe Ricke was floating the idea to investors of selling the U.S. operation, but he decided against it, partly because the response was negative.

Deutsche Telekom spokesman Andreas Leigers confirmed remarks made by Ricke in an interview with Frankfurter Allgemeinen Zeitung.

Ricke told the paper he sees no reason to dispose of the U.S. unit. Instead, he said, Deutsche Telekom aims to expand the unit and participate in the sale of new wireless network spectrum next year. "The U.S. is and will continue to be a growth engine for us," he added.

Some top Deutsche Telekom executives have argued the company should sell T-Mobile USA and use the proceeds to make acquisitions in Europe instead of spending as much as $10 billion during the next few years to build a faster network in the U.S.

Growth at T-Mobile USA has helped Deutsche Telekom to generate more overall sales growth than some European peers, such as Dutch incumbent Royal KPN NV (KPN) and Switzerland's Swisscom AG (SCM).

Deutsche Telekom's unit T-Mobile, which operates its wireless networks in Europe and the U.S., posted a 17% rise in second-quarter EBITDA adjusted for special items, to EUR2.5 billion. It gained 1.9 million more customers during the quarter.

T-Mobile USA was again the strongest growth engine with 972,000 subscriber additions, lifting its tally to 19.2 million and boosting its net income 61% to $387 million.

Analysts at Independent Research Friday said that Deutsche Telekom's decision to retain its U.S. unit should moderately help the shares as the unit is the group's most important growth generator.

But the brokerage, that has an accumulate rating on Deutsche Telekom stock, warns that the decision will limit the company's financial means for necessary strategic investments in important European markets, possible limiting long-term growth perspectives.

At 0951 GMT, Deutsche Telekom stock were up EUR0.15, or 1% at EUR15.30, while the DAX benchmark index was 1.3% higher.

-By Joon Knapen, Dow Jones Newswires; +49-69-29725509; [email address]
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Doesn't look too much better but I did a bit of level adjustments in Photoshop.
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Old 09-19-2005, 02:38 AM   #56 (permalink)
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mp3 and polyphonic
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Why do I need MP3 on a device with such scarce memory? Just for ringtones? Or can I start fantasizing about using edge to stream music directly to my phone from the server in my garage?
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:56 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Why do I need MP3 on a device with such scarce memory? Just for ringtones? Or can I start fantasizing about using edge to stream music directly to my phone from the server in my garage?
I think its just ringtones... I don't see streaming media being a big take off on any edge equipment because of speed/cost. but maybe im wrong
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does anyone have any good pics of this new bb?
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Old 09-19-2005, 05:32 PM   #59 (permalink)
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does anyone have any good pics of this new bb?
Just the rumored ones floating around the net. No one has seen the real deal yet.
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:04 PM   #60 (permalink)
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If I post this on the wrong thread forgive me, but I have a question about the new "Electron". If cingular has it first will it be unlocked like I hear their phones are? I use TMO data plan and I would really like to try it out since it is already EDGE enabled. Or would I be better off waiting till the TMO cows come home?
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