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Old 12-30-2004, 04:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been working on this issue for a couple weeks as I purchased my 7290 specifically to be used as a alternate road connection with my laptop. I was falsely sold the blackberry by my business rep who insisted that it could be used as a modem (turned down free aircard for this).

Anyway, I followed Mark's and others tutorials over and over to no avail. Finally out of desperation, I installed the chinese/japanese 4.0 OS for the 7290. Now, I already had every setting setup on my blackberry and laptop according to the tutorials mentioned above. On my first connection attempt afterward, voila!

My speeds are not anything to be jealous of, but I am connecting now.

So, following Mark's tutorial (sorry,no link) and installing the japanese/chinese 4.0 OS seems to work.

Previously, I was running the 3.8 os and never got past the 718 PPP error.

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One problem remains...
I can now connect and gain an internet connection, but by default I am not granted access to any cingular dns resolution. I can ping public IP's but no name resolution.

Luckily, I host my on name servers and can use them for my resolution but that won't be an option for anyone else.
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Old 12-30-2004, 04:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hong Kong 4.0 OS:
http://1010.hkcsl.com/jsp/biz_1010so..._downloads.jsp
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I am getting an Error 734: The PPP link control protocol was terminated.

Any thoughts?
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I never received the 734 error. According to DUNS documentation, that is simply a PPP disconnect from the host. 718 is 50/50 dialer and host fault while 734 is almost always the host.

Are you on Cingular? What operating system is your PC?
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Old 12-31-2004, 03:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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SUCCESS!!!!!!

I have a document from cinular with DNS name servers, and they work!!!

here are the address:
66.209.10.201
66.209.10.202

you have to put them in manually, and it will work. my connection is slower then heck compaired to my dsl but it finally works!!!


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Excellent, thanks for the dns.

Regarding the bandwidth, I believe Cingular has some sort of cap on for the blackberry, not that they would know. The GPRS network is rated for 160k easily and I'm within a mile to a tower. With my Sony Aircard I get just over 500k (of course, this is using the Edge technoloty).
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well i was testing it out at my house and didnt have full reception so i was figuring that was why i didnt have great speed. stinks to know that they capped gprs. oh well it works, all i have to do is turn off images and i can get by.





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now the question is....will i be charged for data even though i have unlimited data?




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now the question is....will i be charged for data even though i have unlimited data?




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Yes please someone answer this question :D
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According to my Business Rep, definitely not. The connection is over data channels (hence the crap speed), so it should definitely not count against plan minutes.

Of course, my same rep sold me the phone with the selling point of using it as a modem.
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i hope he is right. nothing has popped up on my cingular account online, but there is a huge delay so i must wait.



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you have to put them in manually, and it will work.
Where do you put in the DNS IPs? TCP option does not have a place.

Does this help the 734 error?

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DNS options are configured in the on the TCP/IP settings of your Dial up networking Connection (on your computer), but it won't help the 734 error.

Make sure you have the Extra Init string added and IP header compression disabled.
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I am not sure how to install the HK 4.0 OS software. I downloaded it, ran install which extracted the files to D:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\7290-v4.0.0.185_P1.8.0.117.

Using the desktop, I point the app loader at that directory but which alx files to I install? The Blackberry.alx or all of them (except Chinese).?

I did run the backup first.

I could not find a readme or any other installation instructions.

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You should connect your device to your pc with desktop manager running. Then run the HK install. It will do everything for you including the backup.
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Hmm, I did that. DM said it was connected before I started.

During install, it told me to shut down the manager. It then ran the install and had a checkbox to restart the manager. It did not install to the BB. I had to search around my PC filesystem to find out where it unzipped the alx files. Looks like the final install step did not run itself.

The BB has 3.8 still.
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you need to delete the vendor.xml file in one of the rim directories. this is a known problem and deleteing it fixes your problem.





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C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader is the directory where the vendor.xml file is. if your worried about deleteing it just rename it, then restart blackberry desktop and everything should work again including the install of the 4.0 software.





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Cool!

I actually had this working on a Cingular Blackberry back in early December. I quit my job and had to turn in my laptop. Until now I have not been able to make it work again on my new one. I didn't remember the DNS step. Thanks for the tip, AuEngineer!

I just received my bill for the month of December, and I have no charges for the time that I was using this type of connection. I kept my usage fairly low until I could see whether or not I would be charged, but I was connected for probably an hour between 12/7 and 12/15.
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Oops! It was D123456 who provided the DNS tip. Thanks to both of you! I am currently connected via my Blackberry running software ver 3.8 at a blistering 57.6Kbps. I followed Mark's instructions and added D123456's tip to manually configure DNS.
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