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Old 11-26-2005, 01:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I recently switched from a 7290 with Cingular and I've had my 8700c now for a bit over two weeks. I would like to share the following with the community to perhaps get your opinions:

1. I just don't feel the rugeddness of the 7290 in the 8700c. I am waiting for any survivability tests. I don't know if this is going to be a durable when dropped.

2. A minor point but perhaps other upgrading from the 7290 can appreciate..I am still ending calls (or attempting to end calls with the button on the side rather than the end call button on the front and my calls will just not discinnect that way anymore.

3. I hate all of the themes and am i missing the Compose icon. In fact, am I missing it or is it no longer there?

4. I've read that there is some tweaking with PocketDay so I will wait to load that, but has anyone had any problems running Berry411, Blackberry Messenger or BB Light?

5. I use corporate loga in background. Does anyone know the demensions the new wallpaper will need to be on the 8700?

Actaully I am pleased with the EDGE and the device in whole. Since I really haven't taken the time to explore the device yet, this forum is an excellent source of information for me.
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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try usuing "a" as a short to adress book instead of C
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I too am struggling with the back button to end calls, but its a minor annoyance as im sure i will adapt to the new end button! I had a 7100 before the 7290 so im sure itll be easy!

agreed on the EDGE too... love the blazing speed!
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360 by 240 i think...its my my thread about my review
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I recently switched from a 7290 with Cingular and I've had my 8700c now for a bit over two weeks. I would like to share the following with the community to perhaps get your opinions:

1. I just don't feel the rugeddness of the 7290 in the 8700c. I am waiting for any survivability tests. I don't know if this is going to be a durable when dropped.

True, the 7290 seems more solid. But it was larger and heavier.

2. A minor point but perhaps other upgrading from the 7290 can appreciate..I am still ending calls (or attempting to end calls with the button on the side rather than the end call button on the front and my calls will just not discinnect that way anymore.

Again true, but I'm 12 days in and I've broken the habit. It's just like
getting used to the more cramped keyboard.

3. I hate all of the themes and am i missing the Compose icon. In fact, am I missing it or is it no longer there?

Not in my ballpark. I do like BBicon though.

4. I've read that there is some tweaking with PocketDay so I will wait to load that, but has anyone had any problems running Berry411, Blackberry Messenger or BB Light?

5. I use corporate loga in background. Does anyone know the demensions the new wallpaper will need to be on the 8700?

Actaully I am pleased with the EDGE and the device in whole. Since I really haven't taken the time to explore the device yet, this forum is an excellent source of information for me.[/quote]

I've learned a lot through the posts. Bottom line is I like the 8700 more
and more each day.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm receiving a message from the PocketDay app that it is trying to access data and that the firewall is not permitting the inquiry. This never occured with my 7290! Any ideas?
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I still can not install Yahoo I'm on my 8700. When I try to install it using alx file it will not even accept that file. I use I'm a lot on my 7290 and can not go without it. 0blackberry connect, it is not even there on my BB any help? 411 seach doen not work. So basically my life has come to stand still because no app works on BB
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Make sure you use the latest desktop software. I used an older ver of 4.0 and could not install any apps. Upgraded and they all installed.
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Another thing that I can see is a downgrade from older models. On older model the Flashing LED could be seen from top, behind or front but on 8700 you can only see it from front. I don't know they did it. now I will have to put this unit on desktop cradle in order to see the LED.
it would have been nice to keep the design of LED same as in older models
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I think so far the two extra buttons have been really handy for me. I have programmer the front one for Web and the side one for Messages. For messages you could still hit the M key but for browser there was not shortcut. so it is coming handy.
I think the power button on the top is more like a screen light key because I don't think it turns the device completely off. well I like the button. I wish there could be a way to not to use the screen light because I could get the windshield size Rx. glassses pretty soon because of the light.
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I am noticing a few issues with BB Messenger. For example when i dont respond right away to an IM, it will show either me unavailable or my contact unavailable. Then once you go to "Available" and select it both the sender and receipient get any pending messages and appear available.

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Got to add it seems I'm the only one unable to download Berry411 and make it work. Any tips?
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wavester
I recently switched from a 7290 with Cingular and I've had my 8700c now for a bit over two weeks. I would like to share the following with the community to perhaps get your opinions:

1. I just don't feel the rugeddness of the 7290 in the 8700c. I am waiting for any survivability tests. I don't know if this is going to be a durable when dropped.

2. A minor point but perhaps other upgrading from the 7290 can appreciate..I am still ending calls (or attempting to end calls with the button on the side rather than the end call button on the front and my calls will just not discinnect that way anymore.

3. I hate all of the themes and am i missing the Compose icon. In fact, am I missing it or is it no longer there?

4. I've read that there is some tweaking with PocketDay so I will wait to load that, but has anyone had any problems running Berry411, Blackberry Messenger or BB Light?

5. I use corporate loga in background. Does anyone know the demensions the new wallpaper will need to be on the 8700?

Actaully I am pleased with the EDGE and the device in whole. Since I really haven't taken the time to explore the device yet, this forum is an excellent source of information for me.
Wavester: I'm in the same boat as you (7290 to 8700).
1. I agree about the durability between the two units. Maybe it's the 7290's black plastic v. the "more elegant" silver of the 8700, but I think it's likely the real glass screen v. the 7290's cheesy plastic one. In any case, I'm paranoid as hell about dropping my 8700 and finding out! I haven't yet (knock on wood...)

2. I still hit the side button to end calls, only to notice later that I'm still connected! I agree; it's just a matter of time to get used to the 8700, including how some symbols are now on different keys...

3. I like some of the new themes, but probably because that was never an option with my old Cingular 7290 - even though it could obviously handle 'em. The "animation" of homescreen icons is a useful feature to help me know where I'm at, although I admit I'm tending to use the list themes more often (which I doubted I'd do...)

4. I could NEVER get Berry411 to work on my 7290. Kept running into a firewall issue... Can't help you on this question yet.

5. The 8700's screen is 320x240 pixels at 65K colors. I've created/e-mailed several pix to my BB that I use as wallpaper. You can do the same with your corporate logo. (Depending on which theme you prefer, however, you might need to putz around with the image to get the logo positioned where you want it, or to make sure the logo isn't overpowering the text/icons on your homescreen...
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Well, as to durability, it finally happened to me, Drop Test. I caught my 8700 on my sleve somehow and yanked it out of the holster. It got thrown about 4 feet onto a rough concrete driveway. I can see where it hit, a very small nick on the upper left corner near the Power/Light botton. No other damage at all. Didn't even do a reboot, which my 7290 did when I knocked it off the table onto the linoleum floor. Still works just fine, I am posting from it now. Just my experience. I am not sure how you can determine durability by feel anyway.

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I have dropped mine more than once and cannot find any nicks or other damage. It goes with the job, I am in and out of my truck at least 30 times a day.
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The BACK button was an issue for us. I had a 7290 and quickly moved to the 7100g BECAUSE the backbutton ended calls. I now own an 8700c and I tell you, I am SOooooooooo glad that the back button does NOT end calls. (It was the first thing I checked on the phone)

We had a ton of complaints about calls being dropped with the 7290 and we soon found out that people were hitting the back button and ending their calls prematurely.

The 8700c is the best phone/PDA I have used to date.
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The BACK button was an issue for us. I had a 7290 and quickly moved to the 7100g BECAUSE the backbutton ended calls. I now own an 8700c and I tell you, I am SOooooooooo glad that the back button does NOT end calls. (It was the first thing I checked on the phone)

We had a ton of complaints about calls being dropped with the 7290 and we soon found out that people were hitting the back button and ending their calls prematurely.

The 8700c is the best phone/PDA I have used to date.
I note this knowing only 10% of readers will truly relate, but because BBs are made for right-handers, as a leftie, I never inadvertently hit the back button pre-8700! Maybe that's another reason I love the 8700: its frontal end-call button is totally PC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wavester
I recently switched from a 7290 with Cingular and I've had my 8700c now for a bit over two weeks. I would like to share the following with the community to perhaps get your opinions:

3. I hate all of the themes and am i missing the Compose icon. In fact, am I missing it or is it no longer there?
The Compose icon looks to have been removed from the main screen with 4.1 handheld software. So that's not a 8700 only feature.
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The Compose icon looks to have been removed from the main screen with 4.1 handheld software. So that's not a 8700 only feature.
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