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Old 11-27-2005, 01:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am thinking of returning my 8700c and going back to my 7100t. Here's why.

1. Biggest problem. Won't accept cookies for most sites, I can't access My Yahoo (except for the mobile version) and other sites that require me to enter a username and a password. What a joke! I can do all of that on my 7100t.

2. Keyboard not as fast as 7100t. The 7100t has BIG buttons which you can't miss. Suretype sure works great. It's true one handed operation. With the 8700 I found myself using two hands and typing more slowly.

3. 7100t is smaller for the hand and the pocket.

4. My 7100t has better Bluetooth! It sounds better in the car and for listeners on the other end than my 8700 Bluetooth. Go figure!

What I like about the 8700c is much better reception (four or five bars for the 8700 versus one or two for the 7100t at my desk in my house). It's also nice and loud.

Not sure yet what to do. Stll thinking about it. If they would put a better browser on the 8700 I might stay with it.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am thinking of returning my 8700c and going back to my 7100t. Here's why.

1. Biggest problem. Won't accept cookies for most sites, I can't access My Yahoo (except for the mobile version) and other sites that require me to enter a username and a password. What a joke! I can do all of that on my 7100t.

2. Keyboard not as fast as 7100t. The 7100t has BIG buttons which you can't miss. Suretype sure works great. It's true one handed operation. With the 8700 I found myself using two hands and typing more slowly.

3. 7100t is smaller for the hand and the pocket.

4. My 7100t has better Bluetooth! It sounds better in the car and for listeners on the other end than my 8700 Bluetooth. Go figure!

What I like about the 8700c is much better reception (four or five bars for the 8700 versus one or two for the 7100t at my desk in my house). It's also nice and loud.

Not sure yet what to do. Stll thinking about it. If they would put a better browser on the 8700 I might stay with it.
Drop me an email if you decide to go back to the 7100, I'll buy your 8700.

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Old 11-27-2005, 01:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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[quote=gadgetman]I am thinking of returning my 8700c and going back to my 7100t. Here's why.

1. Biggest problem. Won't accept cookies for most sites, I can't access My Yahoo (except for the mobile version) and other sites that require me to enter a username and a password. What a joke! I can do all of that on my 7100t.

Are you sure this is not a browser setting? have you tried different browser configurations?

2. Keyboard not as fast as 7100t. The 7100t has BIG buttons which you can't miss. Suretype sure works great. It's true one handed operation. With the 8700 I found myself using two hands and typing more slowly.

of course....it's a "full" size keyboard not intended for one handed operation like suretype.

3. 7100t is smaller for the hand and the pocket.

again the keyboard........

from what i read of your dislikes you're probably better off with the 7100t. sounds like what you really want is a phone first, handheld second. which is to say it sounds like you want handheld functionality, phone-sized. just my .015
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I've tried every browser setting nothing works. I am finding more and more websites that I can't access. AvantGo. Web2Mail. MyYahoo. There doesn't seem to be a setting regarding cookies.
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It seems that with an AT&T SIM card you get the Blackberry (good) Browser and SMS delivery confirmations (the little D). See the thread about SMS delivery reports. If the Browser can be replaced with the Blackberry browser, which accepts all cookies, I will probably stay with the 8700.
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Most websites seem to work fine on the 8700 -- I haven't seen any not work on the 8700 that did work on other older BlackBerry models. I suspect that it is a messed setting somewhere -- or maybe a bug.

There are about 3 "different" web browsers built into a BlackBerry (WAP, BlackBerry Browser, Internet Browser) and they are enabled specifically by the carrier service books and the prescence of BES. That's why there are three web browser icons on my BlackBerry, although with no BES, there are only one or two icons. All of them have varying levels of 'access' to the Internet, essentially the same browser with totally different settings.

Try resending your Internet Browser Service Books through the BWC/BIS website.

So it sounds like a misconfigured browser -- the process is to determime whose is the fault (The BES? The carrier? The BlackBerryOS? Etc?)
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Thanks for the reply. Nothing works. I am stuck with only the Cingular browser for now. Like others, I'll have to wait until Cingular decides to enable the BB Browser for us. It's funny because the big selling point for the 8700 was the ability to download websites quickly with EDGE on a nice screen and it turns out that many of us can't download some of our favorite sites. In my case, I really want my personalized Yahoo page which I can't get with the Cingular browser.

(I'm not sure that I will stay with the 8700 anyway. I just think the 7100t/7105t rocks, even without EDGE. The 8700 is too big, seemingly too delicate, and really doesn't have a great keyboard. Also the 8700 is not working well with my car as the Bluetooth is very unstable - it may be a defective unit -while the 7100t works perfectly. The only advtantage to the 8700 for me so far is much better reception than the 7100t/7105t.)
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