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Old 11-28-2005, 04:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys,

I just bought a new 7100i with Nextel. I also signed up for the unlimited data plan so I can do internet, email and telenav, which for me costs $45/mo on top of my Nextel plan. My girlfriend got a Treo 650 with Sprint PCS and pays $10/mo for unlimited internet and email.

My question is: Why shouldn't I return the 7100i and get a Treo 650? It seems like a better machine (touchscreen, more intuitive UI, qwerty KB) and it's only $10/mo for unlimited internet vs. my $45/mo.

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Old 11-28-2005, 04:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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well...hard to say. Perhaps you should.
Unless you like the idea of "push e-mail", stability, TeleNav and faster browsing, then perhaps treo is the way for you.
To each their own..but Blackberry is the better product...it's just what price do you put on "piece of mind"
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I had the Treo 600 previously and the only thing i liked better about it was the touchscreen. I know the 650 is slightly improved, but I'm definately hooked on BB now. Also, trying to navigate using the Treo while driving (yeah, i know, not such a hot idea in the first place) is much more difficult than on the 7100. The BB OS is much more stable and the phone overall is also much more durable (in my opinion).
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do what makes you happy but just remember you owned a BB before having to rest all the time
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to jscully:

The push email is coming to treo 650 soon, if not already. Can't remember where this was announced. Also, there is a GPS product for the Treo 650 which costs $250 with no additional monthly fee (Telenav costs $10/mo forever). Also, I have the ability to test browsing on both models and IMHO the Treo is better. The Blazer browser is more fully supported and it has the "wide-viewing" option.

to dawg:

I don't quite understand your statement. Can you explain?

Admittedly, I am new to BB and palm-top computing in general, but now that MS has entered the market in partnership with Palm, it seems like BB is doomed. What do you think?
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to jscully:

The push email is coming to treo 650 soon, if not already. Can't remember where this was announced. Also, there is a GPS product for the Treo 650 which costs $250 with no additional monthly fee (Telenav costs $10/mo forever). Also, I have the ability to test browsing on both models and IMHO the Treo is better. The Blazer browser is more fully supported and it has the "wide-viewing" option.

to dawg:

I don't quite understand your statement. Can you explain?

Admittedly, I am new to BB and palm-top computing in general, but now that MS has entered the market in partnership with Palm, it seems like BB is doomed. What do you think?
Push email is not on Treo.
TeleNav is voice directions, not sure if the treo product offers that as well.
I don't know, man...if you want to go to Treo, go ahead. We're here as a community to help each other with Blackberries. We're not here to sell Blackberry units.
Blackberry offers Push e-mail, a more secure environment, and has the ability to sync wirelessly with a PIM through the use of a BES.
It has the most stable operating system on the market.
Good luck with your quest.
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The Treo 650 is not available on Nextel;

If you want a Treo-like BlackBerry, get the 8700c instead of the 7100i. If you need MP3, video, GPS, then the Treo may be a better choice -- but personally the iPod is better for MP3 and video, and a separate Garmin PDA seems to be doing so much a better job at doing GPS. The BlackBerry is great at wireless data -- a lot better than Treo in my opinion (especially with model 8700 which is a new full QWERTY model that just came out)

It depends on what your priorities are, but check check the "Why BlackBerry?" section of my BlackBerry FAQ link below;
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Push email is not on Treo.
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http://mytreo.net/archives/2005/10/p...early_2006.php

"Palm announced today that they are working with Research in Motion (makers of the popular Blackberry handhelds and push-email solution) to bring RIM's Blackberry Connect solution to the Treo 650 handheld in early 2006. The solution will allow Treo 650 smartphones to receive push-email from an enterprise server with DES-grade encryption for security. The solution will be compatible with Microsoft's Exchange server as well as IBM's Lotus Domino server."

Who knows if this will materialize or not, but it's something to think about.

It sounds like the major advantage of BBs is that they have BES. But that is an additional fee.
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It depends on what your priorities are, but check check the "Why BlackBerry?" section of my BlackBerry FAQ link below;
Thanks, Mark. Will do.
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"Palm announced today that they are working with Research in Motion (makers of the popular Blackberry handhelds and push-email solution) to bring RIM's Blackberry Connect solution to the Treo 650 handheld in early 2006. The solution will allow Treo 650 smartphones to receive push-email from an enterprise server with DES-grade encryption for security. The solution will be compatible with Microsoft's Exchange server as well as IBM's Lotus Domino server."

Who knows if this will materialize or not, but it's something to think about.

It sounds like the major advantage of BBs is that they have BES. But that is an additional fee.

They have been saying that for a while now.

Just to offer my two cents.
The Treo is a good device that does a lot of things, but does nothing well. It plays MP3, but not as good as an iPod. It's a cell phone, but not as good as a regaular cell phone. It does email, but not realtime and at the cost of precious battery. The list goes on.

On the other hand, the blackberries are devices that does what it's suppose to do and it does it well.

I get my emails instantly, I have access to my companies address book and calender realtime.

Telenav works great. The phone works great.

True, I cannot take picture and video but not do I want to. I need a device that's going to help manage my daily work load and the blackberry does that and it does it well.

I have friends with Blackberries and friends with Treos and we all argue about which device is better. Honestly, they will both get the job done, just depends on your comfort level and budget.
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Here is a feature which may mean keeping my BB, depending on how it works: wireless email reconciliation.

Haven't done any research, so tell me if it works this way or not. I'd like my BB to automatically and wirelessly reconcile any email accounts attached to the device (with no additional software on either end).

For example, let's say I am the webmaster of xyz.com and I have a support account at [email address]. Now, I'm at my desk from 9-5 everyday and checking my email from my desktop during that time. I don't want all those emails to be sent to my BB as new messages when I've already read and responded to them all and I don't want to have to take the time to "synch" them up from a cradle or something.

Now, after 5pm I'm away from my desk and not checking emails from the desktop. I need all emails to be sent to the BB as well and then if I read and respond to them on the BB, then I need my desktop to be updated as well. Does it make sense what I'm after? Basically, I want my email accounts to follow me without any additional effort on my part.

Thanks.

P.S. My BB is not making any sounds at all. It's brand new, and the profile says "Normal", but yet all calls/notifications are muted, won't even vibrate. Any ideas?
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edit the profile settings...might be on mute
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