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Old 11-28-2005, 07:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I see that I can use up to 10 email accounts, but if I choose to have the "reply to" field populated with a specific one on the Cingular BB web site, then can I not use the other 9 accounts to send email? If so, then what is the point? Same as just forwarding 100's of accounts to the BB acount, then choosing any reply to field. Am I missing something?
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....Am I missing something?
From what I understand Yes and No.

Yes you are forgetting why you got the blackberry 8700c. You wanted a device that was stable, fast, and could send and receive email automatically without you having to poll the server manually. You wanted to be able to have and use Push Technology as your email service.

No you are not missing something when it comes to the BIS having one sent from address. Unlike non Push email technology the device itself is not polling an email server. Instead emails are sent to the device er rather sent to the devices PIN which is associated with [email address]. This method allows seamless access to email and very rapid downloading of email as the device is sent plain text messages without dealing with attachments or having to download an entire message before its available for view. It does however also preclude the device from being able to support multiple Sent From Addresses as the device believes that the email was always sent to itself, and therefore the email message originated from the BIS and not from, for example, your AOL account. That said, it does seem within the the realm of possibility that in the future the BIS may support multiple sent from addresses based on the address that message being replied to was sent to... however that may be extremely complicated task and an incredibly large database required to mark a key on each incoming email to the BIS to associate it with a specific account and remember that for infinitum... thus leading to less reliable service, and an overly complicated email system in which it would be more useful to simply have the device poll the server directly........ Thus defeating the whole purpose of the blackberry's superiority.

All of that to simply say no it does not seem possible to have multiple sent from addresses.
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Not sure if it will work on the 8700, and I thought I read that the ability to change was integrated into something. Might be new BES version not BIS.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have a TMO BIS account, and it lets me set the signature and reply-to address for each POP account. When replying to an email sent to one of my accounts, it automatically adds the right sig and reply to. If i send manually, i can go into the "using" field in my compose window and change it to any one of my accounts. TMO switched to a more recent BIS system recently i think. It has a much simpler interface than the cingular BIS, and also works better on macs...
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I have a TMO BIS account, and it lets me set the signature and reply-to address for each POP account. When replying to an email sent to one of my accounts, it automatically adds the right sig and reply to. If i send manually, i can go into the "using" field in my compose window and change it to any one of my accounts. TMO switched to a more recent BIS system recently i think. It has a much simpler interface than the cingular BIS, and also works better on macs...
THIS is exactly what I need! What is going on with Cingular? If this is possible on TMO then we all should have it! Really like the "works better on macs" addition! Anyone know if Cingular will be getting this soon?
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From what I understand Yes and No.

Yes you are forgetting why you got the blackberry 8700c. You wanted a device that was stable, fast, and could send and receive email automatically without you having to poll the server manually. You wanted to be able to have and use Push Technology as your email service.

No you are not missing something when it comes to the BIS having one sent from address. Unlike non Push email technology the device itself is not polling an email server. Instead emails are sent to the device er rather sent to the devices PIN which is associated with [email address]. This method allows seamless access to email and very rapid downloading of email as the device is sent plain text messages without dealing with attachments or having to download an entire message before its available for view. It does however also preclude the device from being able to support multiple Sent From Addresses as the device believes that the email was always sent to itself, and therefore the email message originated from the BIS and not from, for example, your AOL account. That said, it does seem within the the realm of possibility that in the future the BIS may support multiple sent from addresses based on the address that message being replied to was sent to... however that may be extremely complicated task and an incredibly large database required to mark a key on each incoming email to the BIS to associate it with a specific account and remember that for infinitum... thus leading to less reliable service, and an overly complicated email system in which it would be more useful to simply have the device poll the server directly........ Thus defeating the whole purpose of the blackberry's superiority.

All of that to simply say no it does not seem possible to have multiple sent from addresses.
Thans a lot for the explanation, makes perfect sense. Though I really wish the TMO method would be used at Cingular, as stated above...
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I am with T-Mo and their BIS is the best thing and is the real thing for BB users. I just got a new line from Cingular to grab a 8700 and was very disappointed to know that they do not have BIS. they have the same old webclient and which is not even close to what BIS can do for you. So I could not even use my BB and will have to return the BB within 30 days. I am just so used to this "using email account" thing that it makes sense to stick to it.
Also Webclient will have the same storage issues because you are still storing emails in their 25MB box.
So think about it. I asked Cingular and they do not have any plan to upgrade it.
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Man. I haven't even got my 8700 yet and already i'm getting a bad feeling. First the browser thing, and now I find out Cingular is still using the old webclient, which barely works on a mac and only has a 25MB limit. I can get 25MB of emails in an hour sometimes as i'm in the creative field. Oh well. I'll try the 8700 for 28 days and then if i don't like it, i have 2 days to get it back...
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Man. I haven't even got my 8700 yet and already i'm getting a bad feeling. First the browser thing, and now I find out Cingular is still using the old webclient, which barely works on a mac and only has a 25MB limit. I can get 25MB of emails in an hour sometimes as i'm in the creative field. Oh well. I'll try the 8700 for 28 days and then if i don't like it, i have 2 days to get it back...
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BTW the browser issue is fixed, in case you overlooked the other posts.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I did get the new browser finally, thanks. man,, i wish Cingular could switch to the BIS that tmo is using. It's so much more simple and powerful. If anyone out there is talking to cingular managament, please make a plea for the newer service!
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