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Old 12-07-2005, 08:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Strange that RIM would release a device with this kind of problem. Their previous devices have the best build quality I've seen out of the major handset makers. Although the battery door on my 7100g is flimsy, the rest is built very well. I've had the unit for almost a year now with heavy use and it has never had any specks of dust anywhere in or around the screen.

Trust me, that type of thing would drive me crazy too!!
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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But it is a pretty trivial problem on the scale of things...!
So I guess I can count on you to buy it when moisture enters the same leaks dust is going in now.

GREAT! I feel better already!
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:56 PM   #23 (permalink)
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It is amazing to me to observe how sensitive people are to something like a little bit of dust on the screen but tolerate products with glaring problems like Microsoft Windows and HP printers.

So tell me, what is "good design" to you?
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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This has nothing to to with windows vs palm vs blackbery, whos device is more stable or easier to use or more apps or more features or blah blah blah ad infinitum.... its about a poorly sealed screen that will let elements in that could render the device useless. If you want an example of a good design, the 7290 would come to mind. Its tight as a drum and can take a drop like no other device I've ever seen. The 8700 is a great device but they have a problem here and at $400 a pop they need to fix it.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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How come when I make a post like this I get called all kinds of names... I think people need to relax a little bit as well. If there is a problem as much as people seem to think, RIM will recall/exchange the devices I'm sure...

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LOL, You do realize this is a phone were talking about here right? This isn't like you just bought a brand new car that didn't come with a steering wheel...I mean come on! I personally have opened up the device, and see the rubber seal around the screen, why dust gets in who knows maybe the seal isnt tight enough, whatever. Return the phone or don't buy it. I just think its hilarious how people act when they get the phone they have been waiting for 8 months later and tear it to bits...8700c is best blackberry I have used, and for that reason if the screen was FULL OF DUST I would still use it, because that doesn't interfere with anything else! It doesn't stop me from sending emails, IM, or doing anyhting else I need it to. This is purely cosmetic people! I just bought a brand new Range Rover...THERE IS DUST IN THE SEATS FOLKS, holy god, RECALL!!! Range Rover please exchange my car, also while your at it please take a look at all my complaints and fix them, and ship me the car back overnight, FedEx...get real and stop complaining. - Tiki Barber
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So I guess I can count on you to buy it when moisture enters the same leaks dust is going in now.

GREAT! I feel better already!
Haha! Your funny, let me ask you this...if the seal around the screen was perfect and no dust got in, how would that stop you from getting moisture in your device through the keyboard? It wont, your screwed anyway...Have fun taking a shower with your BlackBerry...
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:34 PM   #28 (permalink)
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How come when I make a post like this I get called all kinds of names... I think people need to relax a little bit as well. If there is a problem as much as people seem to think, RIM will recall/exchange the devices I'm sure...

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I thin its minor enough that they'll just update manufacturing at one point so new devices won't ship with the issue. Just like with the first tmo 7230s that had the fake metallic surround around the screen. It was just plastic painted silver and always wore down to black. We ordered more 7230's a few months later and those one's had real metal there instead of the silver painted plastic. So I think a few months from now new shipping 8700s will have a better sealed case.
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Haha! Your funny, let me ask you this...if the seal around the screen was perfect and no dust got in, how would that stop you from getting moisture in your device through the keyboard? It wont, your screwed anyway...Have fun taking a shower with your BlackBerry...
I'm not taking a shower with it but I could get caught in the pouring rain with it. Much harder for moisture to get to the the inside screen from the keyboard then from the 3 gaping holes by the answer buttons and the center button that quick launches an app. Just admit your wrong.
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No because you didnt say anything about fixing that issue, you mentioned dust in the screen which has nothing to do with the open holes in the 3 buttons, it has to do with the seal around the screen...all good
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LOL, You do realize this is a phone were talking about here right? This isn't like you just bought a brand new car that didn't come with a steering wheel...I mean come on! I personally have opened up the device, and see the rubber seal around the screen, why dust gets in who knows maybe the seal isnt tight enough, whatever. Return the phone or don't buy it. I just think its hilarious how people act when they get the phone they have been waiting for 8 months later and tear it to bits...8700c is best blackberry I have used, and for that reason if the screen was FULL OF DUST I would still use it, because that doesn't interfere with anything else! It doesn't stop me from sending emails, IM, or doing anyhting else I need it to. This is purely cosmetic people! I just bought a brand new Range Rover...THERE IS DUST IN THE SEATS FOLKS, holy god, RECALL!!! Range Rover please exchange my car, also while your at it please take a look at all my complaints and fix them, and ship me the car back overnight, FedEx...get real and stop complaining. - Tiki Barber
LOL!! I have to agree with BoyGenius here. Come on people, I do think you all are taking this a bit far. It's a phone for crying out loud. If it works, it works... what you guys are all complaining about is a minor flaw (MAYBE) in the design. You can name a ton of things that you would change about any device on the market, and in my opinion, the 8700c would be one of the smallest lists.

The bottom line... this is a great phone.
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why don't we all chip in for some clear shrink wrap and send it to people and tell them with 3 minutes and a hair dryer they can hermetically seal their gadget... maybe we can patent this too... you know... sue the next company that uses shrink wrap or something...
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Maybe I can be first to market with the 8700 dust buster??? Would you guys prefer a backpack model or a floor model with wheels?
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So I guess I can count on you to buy it when moisture enters the same leaks dust is going in now.

GREAT! I feel better already!
You don't really think it is waterproof, do you? And no, I got one of my own, thanks!
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Haha! Your funny, let me ask you this...if the seal around the screen was perfect and no dust got in, how would that stop you from getting moisture in your device through the keyboard? It wont, your screwed anyway...Have fun taking a shower with your BlackBerry...
I liked your answer better than mine!!!
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I had some very small amounts of dust on my screen, but I stuck a compressed air can nozzle on the part of the case that has the crack (you know on the side near the keypad) and blew air into the thing, it cleared off the screen just fine!
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This is purely cosmetic people! I just bought a brand new Range Rover...THERE IS DUST IN THE SEATS FOLKS, holy god, RECALL!!! Range Rover please exchange my car, also while your at it please take a look at all my complaints and fix them
I'll bet if the paint started flaking off of your brand new Range Rover you'd feel differently, despite the fact that the paint has no impact on the vehicle's ability to perform its intended function.
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I'll bet if the paint started flaking off of your brand new Range Rover you'd feel differently, despite the fact that the paint has no impact on the vehicle's ability to perform its intended function.
good point
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:01 AM   #39 (permalink)
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But a poor analogy...
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Range Rover = $50k

8700 = $299 (free cause my company buys it)

Watching people duel over dust = priceless....
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