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Old 12-07-2005, 07:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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For those of you that didn't know this...you can perform a full system reboot (Battery in-out style) without actually removing the battery. This works on all 72xx & up BlackBerry devices and possibley some older ones that I have not owned or tested. Ctl-Alt-Delete, then when the home screen comes up, do it once more right away. System will then perform a full reboot...you will see the usual "Verifying security software" screen pop up on the final reboot. No need to remove the battery! I tried it on my 8700R and it works every time.
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this has been the same on every bb except the ones with suretype and there is no reason to do it twice.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you do it three times your Blackberry automatically creates a secure connection to a secret RIMM Swiss bank account and wires large quantities of money into your bank account
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this has been the same on every bb except the ones with suretype and there is no reason to do it twice.
Incorrect. Doing it once only turns the radio on and off and soft reboots within a few seconds. It does not hard reboot. Try this and you will see for yourself. Call support at RIM if you are still skeptical.
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Incorrect. Doing it once only turns the radio on and off and soft reboots within a few seconds. It does not hard reboot. Try this and you will see for yourself. Call support at RIM if you are still skeptical.
not sure what you are looking at but after ONE alt-cap-del I see an hour glass for a while, when the screen finally loads it says verifying security software etc. Twice does nothing more. Again, this has been the same functionality on EVERY blackberry, even the first 950. Only the suretype's don't have this. If someone at RIM told you twice does something more he/she didn't know what they were talking about. Call again, and ask someone else.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ok, I admit I'm no BB guru, but I'm a pretty savvy guy. I have ALT and DEL, but do I have a CTL button on my 8700c?

Please help - nicely.

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Old 12-07-2005, 08:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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They're referring to the key at the bottom left that has what looks like a crescent moon on it.
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I see what he's saying. Do the alt-cap-del thing once....when it comes back on (while it's searching for network) hit alt-cap-del again and it will do the whole hourglass routine. Looks like a full re-boot.
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not sure what you are looking at but after ONE alt-cap-del I see an hour glass for a while, when the screen finally loads it says verifying security software etc. Twice does nothing more. Again, this has been the same functionality on EVERY blackberry, even the first 950. Only the suretype's don't have this. If someone at RIM told you twice does something more he/she didn't know what they were talking about. Call again, and ask someone else.
My guess is that you don't have a 72xx or an 8700.
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Lets see, many years ago I had a 950, then went to the 957...
then had a 6510 for a bit, then tried the verizon with the 6750...
then jumped to the color world with the 7230 then added bluetooth with the 7290 and now deploying 8700's throughout the company including myself.
I've been doing the alt-cap-del since the 950 for hard reboots and doing it twice consecutively does nothing more than once. A soft reboot is clicking the power off icon on the home screen.

My guess is that you are canadian.

Edit: oops and i tried the 7100t in between the 7230 and 7290. But I had blocked that painful experience from my memory.

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Lets see, many years ago I had a 950, then went to the 957...
then had a 6510 for a bit, then tried the verizon with the 6750...
then jumped to the color world with the 7230 then added bluetooth with the 7290 and now deploying 8700's throughout the company including myself.
I've been doing the alt-cap-del since the 950 for hard reboots and doing it twice consecutively does nothing mo re than once. A soft reboot is clicking the power off icon on the home screen.

My guess is that you are canadian.
What arrogance! Did the "Montreal" location under the avatar give you that feeling? So, you have deployed units and you insist that a keyboard single reboot performs a hard reboot...I was almost going to believe you -- until I did this again, just now on my 8700R. This is what I have found (nothing new). Press Alt & Right cap, then Del...device reboots in 21 seconds with radio on. Hardly what I would call a Hard Reboot (no security software message). Now, if you do the exact same thing again within a minute of the time that the home screen re-appears, the device reboots and comes back with the "verifying security software" message and the reboot takes 62 seconds to come back with the radio on (much quicker than previous generations). So, either your 8700's operate differently than ours, or you have not actually tried this procedure on an 8700 or 7290. I will give you the benefit of the doubt since you're a "talking encyclopedia".
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Stop The Nonsense Now.
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Everyone is correct.

It is BlackBerryOS and situation dependant.

On older BlackBerryOS, hitting the 3-key sequence once does the full hourglass reboot. (3.x versions especially, or when there's a nasty hangup on 4.x)

On newer BlackBerryOS, hitting the 3-key sequence a second time (10 seconds later) is often necessary especially if no applications are hung and no new files have been installed that requires a reboot (i.e. you chose 'Later' in a reboot prompt window after installing an application OTA).

So EVERYONE in this thread is right. No need to argue.
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