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Old 12-28-2005, 03:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im considering getting rid of my 7100G for a 7130e...my 7100g has many audio quality problems, and cingular cannot resolve them...so I am thinking of jumping to the 7130 and Verizon...

My question - those that have the 7130, what dont you like about them, or what are some things you are not happy with?
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first, i like the device a lot (coming from a i730). what i dont like:

1. browser is very wap based. many sites recognize it as a wap broswer (yahoo notably) and provide a very simplistic website instead of a full browser view.
2. i think i would prefer a d-pad to the trackwheel. some things take too many clicks of the wheel to get anything done. example:clicking a link opens a menu that gives me the option to open link. just take me to the link! i know you can click the return key but habit makes me click the trackwheel. i think one handed operation is limited.
3. it still just a little too big. i would like it to be half as thick as it is.
4. the fact i get an sms text every time i get a voicemail. annoying!
5. wish it had some kind of today program built in
6. no way to scroll through different filters (categories) easily.

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Old 12-28-2005, 04:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm interested in this info as well, as I am going to be moving from a company sponsored 7250 to my own personal 7130e. I really like the look and feel of the device, but am used to the 7250's feel and style.

Are there any converts out there who are willing to share their experiences with moving from one device to the other, based on personal (i.e. not business only) use? I'd appreciate it.
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first, i like the device a lot (coming from a i730). what i dont like:

1. browser is very wap based. many sites recognize it as a wap broswer (yahoo notably) and provide a very simplistic website instead of a full browser view.
2. i think i would prefer a d-pad to the trackwheel. some things take too many clicks of the wheel to get anything done. example:clicking a link opens a menu that gives me the option to open link. just take me to the link! i know you can click the return key but habit makes me click the trackwheel. i think one handed operation is limited.
3. it still just a little too big. i would like it to be half as thick as it is.
4. the fact i get an sms text every time i get a voicemail. annoying!
5. wish it had some kind of today program built in
6. no way to scroll through different filters (categories) easily.
Huh, funny, regarding:
1. I like that its WAP based and is recognized as such. I dont like the full view.

2. yup, thats true, BUT, I dont mind hitting the enter key. I have long fingers I 'spoze. So one handed ops are easy.

3. I dont mind the size. I came from a flip phone, the 7130 is a bit bigger, but I think the size/functionality ratio is fine.

4. I like getting an SMS every time I get a voicemail.

5. Not sure on this one. I have yet to see a "today" program that looks good to me, maybe if I saw one that I liked....

6. dont know what that means. hehehe

I guess that it all comes down to individual tastes.
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Old 12-28-2005, 07:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I really like the 7130e. I have a rebooting problem occasionally when I use the modem tethering feature and when I disconnect my bluetooth earpiece. However it's looking more and more like it could be related to the downloaded theme I was using as strange as that sounds.

Speakerphone, handset, and blueooth sound quality (Moto H500) are all as good as any phone I've heard. Noise canceling on the speakerphone isn't great though.

Web browsing over EVDO is pretty quick too.
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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There's talk of RIM releasing a fix for the rebooting in the next few weeks. So far its only happened once for me.
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Hey, I'm new to BBs and this forum, but here goes.

The 7130e is my first BB purchase. I've wanted a phone with a better typing system as well as web browsing applications. Being a cop, I can access a state-run website and check driver's license photos, etc. from this thing. I can also access the state's sex offender website, which comes in handy on traffic stops and calls from time to time. Instead of having to run back to the car and look it up, I can stay with the victim or suspect while I check a few things out - which for safety reasons is a nice thing. I guess any of these style phones would work - but Oprah like the BB, so my wife got it for me. ;)

Cons:

1. The track wheel uses too many clicks to do simple tasks - I like to work it one handed and am still learning the shortcuts.
2. There is a strange clicking noise I hear when I tap the return key.
3. Its all digital, which is a bad thing when I'm far out in the county.

Pros:

1. I really like the footprint of the 7130e. It's small enough to keep on me wherever I go.
2. I can get any SWAT pages (sent in the form of an email) straight to the thing and not have to carry my pager - my old phone never seemed to work well.
3. I can read the thing outside during the day.
4. I'm a gadget freak and this has opend a whole new area to me.

I'll think about this some more and let you know if I come up with anything else. I've only had it a few weeks and am still learning. Due to the BB lawsuit, I've been prepared to go with the Treo 700w when it comes out to ensure I have a working piece of equipment - I'm torn because the BB won't let me view movies and I can't add a memory card to it. I really don't know what I'd want to do with all that, but the "I want mine to do that" itch nags at me when I think about it.

All in all, I think this thing is too much machine for what I need. That's a good thing, right?
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The biggest downsides for me are:

Lack of international support (on the scale of GSM phones)
EVDO has been less reliable than I expected (fairly reliable but somewhat spotty in buildings)
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I tried out a 7100t before purchasing the 7130e (wanted the EVOO Data Connection feature)

Pros:
FAST teathered data connection
Better looking then the 7100's
More RAM
Key are spaced apart which makes typing easier then the 7100t

CONS:
On the 7100t I had the option to drop exsisting call and answer incoming call, on the 7130e the only options are to put call on hold and answer incoming or ignore :(
Because it is a little thicker and the keys are spaced, when I put it in the holster it 'dials' a few numbers
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So far my only complaint is that it's on Verizon.

Verizon's roaming data coverage is horrible.
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Audiovox PPC6600 which in comparison is a brick. My question is will I be able to connect to a regular exchange server for my email until I get on the company's BB service?
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On the 7100t I had the option to drop exsisting call and answer incoming call, on the 7130e the only options are to put call on hold and answer incoming or ignore :(
Yeah, what's the deal with that? I've had 3 Verizon BBs (7750 , 7250 , and now the 7130e ) and none have had the option to drop the current call and answer the incomming.

Is it that they want you to keep both calls on the line even when you don't want to so you're burning up minutes at double the rate?

I love it when I call my voicemail and recieve an incomming call. My only option is to "answer and hold current". Several minutes after hanging up the incomming call I'll get a call back from an "Unknown Caller" and it's my voicemail call still on the line!! Fortunately I don't pay my bill, my employer does, but that's usually like 5-10 of their minutes down the drain depending how long I'm on that call.
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What is odd is that on my Treo 600 with T-Mobile it was the same way. i would have to put the call on hold and then switch over and disconnect the on-hold line and return to the new call. When I put my in in a borrorwed 7100t, the option to hang-ip and answer the new call was there.

Now with the 7130e it is gone, so I think it is a firmware upgrade that *could* be added if Verizon wanted to. I have not played with the 7130e enough to know how difficult it is to:
Put first call on hold
Answer second call
Swtch back to first call
Drop first call
Continue with second call

Anyone done this a lot?

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What is odd is that on my Treo 600 with T-Mobile it was the same way. i would have to put the call on hold and then switch over and disconnect the on-hold line and return to the new call. When I put my in in a borrorwed 7100t, the option to hang-ip and answer the new call was there.

Now with the 7130e it is gone, so I think it is a firmware upgrade that *could* be added if Verizon wanted to. I have not played with the 7130e enough to know how difficult it is to:
Put first call on hold
Answer second call
Swtch back to first call
Drop first call
Continue with second call

Anyone done this a lot?

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Read the 7130 user guide. It explains how to use the Send key for managing 2nd calls.
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2 weeks with the 7130e.

The first 3 days I was on the phone with VZW support alot. I ended up returning my first unit and getting a new replacement. Most of the problems were associated with the first unit (lemon). Still on the support line with the replacement unit however. Problems with bluetooth disconnects rebooting the phone. Problems with bluetooth sync that were eventually corrected. FYI on sync, use native bluetooth support via WinXP, not the manufacturers software. The rebooting thing is the most annoying. Walking away from my truck and I look down to say check email and oh ya the phone is rebooting. Happens far toooo often. Other nits and picks are the case that comes with the phone dialing numbers when you stick the phone in. I know just lock the keyboard.
NEVER had to lock the keyboard with my old 7250. Applications on hold/pause loose their data when the phone reboots. I know it makes sense, but again never had this happen before.

So why keep it.

Tethering works great.
Screen is awesome.
Never thought I would really like Suretype, go figure.
Size and shape.
I don't hang up on my wife. (the escape button on the 7250 was a problem, at least for me). Probably should have listed this one first.
Sync over bluetooth (argh).
Phone buttons on the front.
Programmable "menu" key.
Builtin speakerphone.

Have read rumors that the bluetooth thing may get resolved soon. Once that is done, it would solve two of the biggest problems I have. After that, I don't think I could ask for a better wireless data/voice/pda solution, but will keep looking.

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