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Old 01-04-2006, 11:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all. I'm kind of New to this Blackberry stuff so i will need some opinions.

Well i work as IT guy in a corp and my Boss asked me to research what device can meet hes needs

1. I need to replicate his old palm Contacts Data to new Blackbery. I did some research and have seen that it's possible with newer models.

2. He wants to share his contact data with his assistant. For example if he ads a contact or adds a phone number hes assistant Blackbery device has to have this change replicated wiresly ASAP. This is very important

3. The device has to be bilanguage. He has contacts in his palmpilot that has been added in russian and english. Now he does not want to change between modes, he wanst the device to show bouth languges at the same time. IF contact was addesd in russian it should display so and same for english. Is this to much to ask?

4.Device has to have security lockout feature.

5. And usual stuff he needs to check email from his local office and use it as a phone. Now we wont have a server runing because there is only two devices. Can anyone sugest provider? Verizon vs Nextel

Now what Blackberry model could meet all these need?
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1. I need to replicate his old palm Contacts Data to new Blackbery. I did some research and have seen that it's possible with newer models.

Yes this can be done. Maybe a little technical know how but not to bad.

2. He wants to share his contact data with his assistant. For example if he ads a contact or adds a phone number hes assistant Blackbery device has to have this change replicated wiresly ASAP. This is very important

Not sure on this one someone else can hope in here.

3. The device has to be bilanguage. He has contacts in his palmpilot that has been added in russian and english. Now he does not want to change between modes, he wanst the device to show bouth languges at the same time. IF contact was addesd in russian it should display so and same for english. Is this to much to ask?

4.Device has to have security lockout feature.

YES, Blackberry is all about the security.

5. And usual stuff he needs to check email from his local office and use it as a phone. Now we wont have a server runing because there is only two devices.

If you have an External POP server you can use the BIS with your service provider to check his e-mail and set it up to work that way.

Can anyone sugest provider? Verizon vs Nextel

I have used Nextel and Cingular, much happier with Cingular but Nextel isn't bad. they are all about the same just find the one you liek price and coverage.

Also, some searchign on here will answer all of these in depth.
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1. I need to replicate his old palm Contacts Data to new Blackbery. I did some research and have seen that it's possible with newer models.

Yes this can be done. Maybe a little technical know how but not to bad.
If you install the BlackBerry Desktop Software version 4.1 it can do this for you. Both devices have to be connected to the PC at the same time and the wizard does the rest.

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what abouttwo diferent languages? If the contacts are in 2 dif language can he view them without swithching modes?
And sharing Contact list with his assistant this has to be possible?
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what abouttwo diferent languages? If the contacts are in 2 dif language can he view them without swithching modes?
im gonna go out on a lim here and say that...that wont be possible with any blackberry i've dealt with. Infact, I haven't heard of a PDA/PHONE that is able to display both a foreign language and english at the same time. Maybe a third party app could help you with this but as far as i know, its not possible.

Sorry for coming in with a not so solid answer....but no one else was jumping to help you so I though ide give my two sense. As far as business use and email pushing, the blackberry is at the top IMO. I have dealt with the treos and the HP's but BB hasn't been topped in my book for what your boss will need. I suggest going with cingular and getting the 8700c.
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I have done some google searching and searching on here and have also come to the same conclusion. It also looks like the language option you have available are set by the carrier and the software on the BB. I would also recommend the 8700C from Cingular, it will have the most support and also as most Boss are care what other people think of them and their gadgets might as well get them the new “stylish” device. Also, I am not seeing a way to sync your contacts wirelessly without a BES. But, if they both sync there device up from there systems to the same database, CSV, or contact list there wouldn’t be a reason he couldn’t stay in sync. If you Boss needs e-mail while on the road, out of the office and doesn’t want to boot up a computer I would say 110% a Blackberry is a way to go. I have looked into them all and it is easy to learn, easy to use the main features with out to much education, but more of the complex will most likely be sitting them down and going through a guide or manual. It also is the dominate device in the market place.
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I suppose your boss wants the blackberry to anticipate what he is thinking and automatically email someone in russian or english based on their geographical location?

Man I feel for you....
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This question made me curious, so I did some experimenting. If you're too impatient to read all this, just scroll down to conclusions

My setup:
8700c on Cingular on BES
Hadheld software: 4.1.0.194
Desktop software: 4.0.1.10 (yeah, i know I should upgrade)
OS: Windows XP SP2
Email: Outlook 2003 SP2

Before starting my experiment I already knew that Russian web sites work just fine. Howerver, if I get an email in Russian it looks ok in Outlook, but is all question marks (??? ???? ??????) on the Blackberry.

Here's my experiment:
Stage I
1. Create Outlook contact in Russian. Create Outlook Note in Russian.
2. Sync
3. During the sync process, the Blackberry Desktop Manger shows the new items as ?? ???? ???
The handheld Contact is full of ??? after sync, but the Note is in perfectly good Russian.

Stage II
1. In Windows Regional Settings, set Russian as the default language for non-Unicode programs.
2. Modify Outlook Note and Contact to force resync.
3. Sync
4. During the sync, the Blackberry Desktop Manger displays the note displays in Russian, but the Contact looks like a buch of accented characters (éáeêçô). On the handheld, both note and contact display in Russian.


Conclusion:
It seems that the hanheld supports Russian. There is no need to switch modes to view contacts in both languages. In fact, each contact can have mixed languages. Any problems are caused by PC software that transfers the data. I bet Russian emails would work if the BES was properly configured.

I don't have a way to type Russian characters on the handheld. This can probably be solved by a language pack or a third-party tool.

Further Investigation:
1. Try upgrading to the latest version of desktop manager.
2. Check if the desktop manager has a language option during install.
3. Look for Russian language pack for the handheld.
4. See if there are Russian mobile providers who support Blackberry


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