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Old 02-01-2006, 08:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can I ask those of you with US based 8700 devices to check something for me!?!?!?!?!

Our UK one's have just arrived on Vodafone and I've noticed something odd (I'll try to keep it simple) - when typing emails you have the 'NUM' key for entering digits, however, on the Vodafone 8700 devices, using the 'NUM' key does the same task as 'CAP' - so you want a number 5 and you get a 'D'

Pressing 'ALT' will however enter numeric values - so if it's supposed to be like this, why would you have CAP and NUM performing the same task???

Do you guys have it the same, or will I be calling Vodafone to tell em to sort their code out!!!!!!!!
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this is the way mine works
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Old 02-01-2006, 09:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So it's the same, and on which network?????
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That is confusing but I think the issue is alt key will do numbers but if you want to lock numbers, you press alt and then num key. Just like if you want to lock caps, you press alt and the cap key. That is they way it is supposed to work.
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This is true. The "alt" key activates the "upper" character on any key. The "num" key is actually a "shift" key on the lower portion and "num" in the upper portion. By hitting "alt" then "num" you put the keyboard into "num" mode.
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Ahhh...how rediculous!!!! If the NUM key has no other function, it shouldn't require the help of another key first to set it going .......ineffeciency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice one guys!
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Think of the two Shift keys on a PC keyboard and the Num Lock and Cap Lock. These are alternate functions and due to reduced keyboard need a means of activating. Presing Num is a Shift I E will give a capital letter, Alt + Num activates Num Lock. Eventually it makes sense

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Ahhh...how rediculous!!!! If the NUM key has no other function, it shouldn't require the help of another key first to set it going .......ineffeciency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice one guys!
Done for a reason...like preventing unintended engagement of the Num lock...thats why they do that...
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Thanks! This was driving me nuts...
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Done for a reason...like preventing unintended engagement of the Num lock...thats why they do that...
Well if you think about it, it is inefficient to have to press another button.

My laptop works the following way: Press "Num Lk" I get a small num lock logo that lights up and a small pop up window appears that reads "NUM LOCK: ON." When I press the "Num Lk" key again the num lock logo is no longer displayed and a small pop up window appears that reads "NUM LOCK: OFF." The "Caps Lock" key works the same way.

When you think about it, the ALT key does work as a shift so if you change both the CAPS and NUM buttons to lock after you press them once and then unlock after you press them a second time would make more sense in terms of usability.

BB could implement the pop up display to save a thumb stroke and also let you know that either feature is enabled (if they wanted to do this). But we are splitting hairs here....


--> Actually I just tried this and I am wrong. ALT acts as a Shift key and so does NUM and CAP on the BB.

Pressing ALT gives you the Number keys and special character keys that you see above the letters

Pressing NUM or CAP gives you capital letters

Pressing ALT+NUM or ALT+CAP enables each function for numbers, or all caps

And there is a small pop up window that shows when either NUM or CAP is enabled.

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I think this is very confusing and if memory serves me correctly it operated differently in OS versions previously. When I look down and see NUM it makes me wanna push it for a number. I guess that little NUM is there to signify num lock, and I understand.

It just seems a little odd to me.
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