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Old 02-09-2006, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi! This is my first post to the forums!

I am purchasing an 8700r in the next week or so, and will be using it on the LIMITED unlimited rogers data plan. After reading countless posts on various forums, I am very worried about consistantly running over their LOW cap.

My question is, do IM applications on the 8700r eat up data while they are running in the background if nobody is actually msging you? For example, if I am logged in to msn messenger marked as "away" and nobody sends me a msg all day, will it somehow be consuming data for me just being online?

I thought I would start here since everybody is so knowlegable on this forum!

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Scared of my 25mb plan..... Dave2music
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Old 02-09-2006, 04:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, since you are just going to sign up for this, I think they will give you "REAL" unlimited Data for the first 3 months. You can keep your IM software on and see how much data you actually consume in a month to see if you will eventually exceed the 25mb cap.
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Old 02-09-2006, 04:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If think the actual transmition of IM back and forth are what count against data usage.
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Yes, the first 3 months is true unlimited.

If you use any of the modern single socket IM software, expect about 500 kilobyte per day of usage if you idle 24/7 for the background status update and keepalive stuff. I sometimes use WebMessenger for reliability, and VeriChat for user friendliness, but both are getting quite similiar. There are plenty of others.

Earlier versions of VeriChat (separate sockets per chat network), consumed quite a lot more data while idling, and could easily exceed the cap while idling. But it's now possible to idle 24/7 all month long and not use much data.

Anyway, you can browse as much as you like in the first 3 months if this is your first-ever BlackBerry with Rogers (please verify that you are really on the "3 month" special no limits plan, though)
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Ahhh... that's good info! I forgot about status updates on IM like people in my list logging in and out. I can only imagine staying logged in while I am away from a desktop PC, which would probably be only a few hours daily.

Has anyone heard anything about rogers increasing the cap at LEAST to match bell?

Great forum, and thanks everyone! I knew I came to the right place!!

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Check out the Sticky on the top of this forum.
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Hi,

How much is the unlimited data plan? I cannot find it on the rogers website....

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[quote=Mark Rejhon]Earlier versions of VeriChat (separate sockets per chat network), consumed quite a lot more data while idling, and could easily exceed the cap while idling. But it's now possible to idle 24/7 all month long and not use much data.
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I am testing those two and IM+ now. They all are very stable for me on a BES. I like them all and will discuss the differences and convergence when I get it done.
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The petition is now up if you're worried about data overages on Rogers.

To Sign The Petition, click:
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