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Old 02-09-2006, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I posted this at the bottom of another thread, but I feel there may be other users (very new, like myself) who are interested in this information.

I have been attempting to use some 3rd Party Applications on my 8700c through Cingular. The ones I am attempting to use now are Ramble IM and Google Local. When I start these programs, I get various error messages and they will not connect.

Through Ramble, I get "Invalid Connection String: could not open tunnel - failed". Through Google Local, I get "Network Unavailable".

As I stated in the other thread, I am currently paying for the Blackberry Unlimited Data Plan with Voice. I have read several threads that stated I need to change my APN's to show wap.cingular, which I have tried to no effect. I have also tried "proxy" and "isp.cingular" as instructed, also to no effect.

What I would like to know is what, exactly, I need to do to get these 3rd Party Applications enabled and running on my 8700c. I love the device and its potential, but if I cant get these programs running, I may have to go back to my Sidekick (I use AIM all the time and need this functionality.)

Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide!

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Old 02-09-2006, 05:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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At least you're one step ahead of me. I just FINALLY got my Blackberry Browser icon for the first time by following some steps to "reregister" I found on another post. Now when I try to download Google Local Maps, I only get an error 406....

Help me too!

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At least you're one step ahead of me. I just FINALLY got my Blackberry Browser icon for the first time by following some steps to "reregister" I found on another post. Now when I try to download Google Local Maps, I only get an error 406....

Help me too!

-Sam
I found the problem with my 406 error. It was related to our default policy on our BES that was disabling 3rd party applications. I've created a new group for testing and I've removed the 3rd party blocking. Now I am able to download Google local, but I get a "Network Unavailable" when I try to run it????

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Wirelessly posted (8700c: BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

If you are on BES you need Mobile Data Service (MDS) enabled.
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I just got my 8700 from Cingular as well and I had the SAME problems. You have to call Cingular and connect to their Blackberry support. Let the support rep walk you through the solutions and they'll activate WAP access for you.

It does not come standard with the Blackberry service plan. It's a catch-22 and it's a bit of a rip-off.
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You either need to have the wap.cingular APN enabled on your account by paying for Wireless Internet Express Pay Per Use or sign up with an Exchange hosting service like www.exchangemymail.com and use their MDS proxy.
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You either need to have the wap.cingular APN enabled on your account by paying for Wireless Internet Express Pay Per Use or sign up with an Exchange hosting service like www.exchangemymail.com and use their MDS proxy.
And if you time has any value to you, you will do what Igreenberg and I did, and get a hosted BES. I use link2exchange, because you can get some minimal support for MACs, but the deal with these services is pretty much the same. For $20/month, you don't have to spend several hours/month on the phone with the 611 cretins at cingular trying to figure out your bill.

Unfair? Something Cingular should do for free? Absolutely! However, if you just want to solve your problem and get on with life, invest the $20/month and be free.

If you do a search, you see a few threads with Tmo vs Cingular arguments. This has little to do with me, since I can't get Tmo where I live. YMMV.
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