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Old 03-08-2006, 07:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I'm new to this forum and I didn't really get the answer I was looking for in searches;sorry in advanced if I missed anything.

I'm a college student looking to get a smartphone for the first time. First of all, I'd like to state that I'm not like the regular blackberry users here that I'm reading about: the bluetooth, multiple email accounts, and reviewing pdfs, etc. etc.. is all way over my head and not what I need.

All I am planning on using my smartphone for is phone (most importantly), pda/organizer, and keeping up to date with email. In other words the phone functions have to be easy to use; the organizer has to be easy to use; and the email needs to be simple.

I briefly fooled around with the 7130e,7250, and the treo 650,700 (yea i know). I didn't really get a good look at the 7130e but it did seem a little awkward at first. The treos seemed really easy, but I've heard so many bad things about the treos in terms of crashing and loosing calls that I think it's out of the option.

I will be interning this summer for the government and I know that all the top guys there use blackberry. I hear all these good things about the treo, but bottomline it seems like more people and more important people use blackberry and theres gotta be a reason for that!

After reading my needs do you guys think that the blackberry 7130e is appropriate? I definately don't care for games, cameras, pictures, and all that stuff. Simply phone, organizer, email thats it. Should I go for the 7130e?
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yes if thats what you want from it and you can get used to a different way of doing things on a phone...then yes ANY blackberry is good at keeping track of classes, appts, and personal contacts. Blackberry for me at least has been the most stable phone ive ever used. and ive had the priveledge of my first smartphone being a blackberry.
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What you're looking to do with it is exactly what I do. Contacts, calendar, keep my personal email off of my work bberry etc. At first the keyboard was a little awkward because i'm use to my work bberry/nextel, but i got used to it pretty quickly. The size is great, the battery life is also good, it has speaker phone, and it's very light. I think you'll be very happy with it for what you're looking for a PDA/Phone for.
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Thanks for the quick repliess. I'm not really too worried about the typing. I've read that its like T9 but way better. Since I'm fairly used to T9 and have no problems with it on my cell phone now, I assume that the blackberry suretype can't be worse.

As long as the phone's easy to use then I'll probably be a happy person, and it seems so far that you guys think it is. I am curious about one thing. My mom happens to work in government and she talked to a coworker who uses blackberry (my mom doesn't) and the guy told her that with the whole patent infringement thing, everybody is dropping blackberry, so I shouldn't get it. I thought that whole thing was settled and that all the govt uses it. Why would they just drop it? Sorry again I didnt do a search, I literally just got off the phone with my mom when she told me this. Maybe I heard wrong or something?

I can't imagine going with that treo. I feel like that phone wouldn't last a month and $400 dollars is just too much to pay for a phone I can't depend on.
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The case has been settled out of court so there is nothing going on there anymore. I'm in your boat also I use my 7100 for the same reasons that your looking for. Before I had the 7100 I had a treo 650 with sprint service and I switched over to t-mobile just for the blackberry. The 650 was reseting on me once-twice a day and loosing info, it also doesn't have push althought you can set it to get email every minute. My blackberry is by far the best phone I have ever had. There are features that I wish they had in it mainly expandable memory but I haven't ran into any issues of running out either.
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my 7130e has been great. While I am a heavy email and IM'er on the BB, i do sync all my contacts, appts, tasks and memos on the device. Very helpful and easy to use. Ironically, the 7130 is the best phone/bb device with its thin phonelike design but I have Data only so cannot attest to the phone's quality, but its Verizon CDMA so outside of phone issues, you should have not call quality issues.

If you are in a metro area with 1XEV data coverage, be sure to upgrade the 7130e's device software to the latest rev for good data connection reliability.
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Thanks for the quick repliess. I'm not really too worried about the typing. I've read that its like T9 but way better. Since I'm fairly used to T9 and have no problems with it on my cell phone now, I assume that the blackberry suretype can't be worse.
Yes the BB's suretype is much more accurate than regular T9. Example--type any 4-letter word on a regular cell phone. There are usually 3 letters per key, so there are 3^4 (3*3*3*3) (81) possible words. Of course, of those likely only 1 or 2 will be actual words in the dictionary, but that's still a lot of possibilities. With the BB, since there are only 2 letters per key, there will be at most 2^4 (2*2*2*2) (16) possible words in any 4-key sequence (fewer if "L" or "M" is used)--fewer words and less likelihood of a conflict. Also, the keyboard is laid out differently (qwerty, as opposed to an "abc", "def", etc. layout), though I'm not sure of how this affects commonly used words and conflicts. In the last 4 days I've had my BB, I have only run across one major conflict: "him" and "hum" and "gum" map to the same keystrokes. With T9 cellphones, I have always hated the "if" and "he" conflict, as well as the "me" and "of"... those commonly used words always cause trouble!

One more note... I'm VERY picky in terms of stability with cell phones. I'm only mid-20's but I had some of the earliest cell phones more than 12+ years ago, when the software was much simpler than today and cell phones simply didn't crash often, if ever (I don't ever remember a crash pre-2002). So I have high expectations. Some people amaze me at how forgiving they are with a multi-hundred-dollar piece of equipment that crashes, loses data, etc.--something that is supposed to make their lives simpler but wastes more time with restoring lost data than the time it saves by increasing productivity. So I wouldn't use something that was not pretty rock-solid. PocketPC's and the like, largely due to a lot of 3rd-party software running in the background, are very unstable. I would not own a phone that I had to reboot (even the notion of "rebooting" a phone is alien to me) more than twice a month. So far the BB has been wonderful and super stable--exactly how a phone with extras (as opposed to a useless feature-overloaded device) should be.
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Yes the BB's suretype is much more accurate than regular T9. Example--type any 4-letter word on a regular cell phone. There are usually 3 letters per key, so there are 3^4 (3*3*3*3) (81) possible words. Of course, of those likely only 1 or 2 will be actual words in the dictionary, but that's still a lot of possibilities. With the BB, since there are only 2 letters per key, there will be at most 2^4 (2*2*2*2) (16) possible words in any 4-key sequence (fewer if "L" or "M" is used)--fewer words and less likelihood of a conflict. Also, the keyboard is laid out differently (qwerty, as opposed to an "abc", "def", etc. layout), though I'm not sure of how this affects commonly used words and conflicts. In the last 4 days I've had my BB, I have only run across one major conflict: "him" and "hum" and "gum" map to the same keystrokes. With T9 cellphones, I have always hated the "if" and "he" conflict, as well as the "me" and "of"... those commonly used words always cause trouble!
Noooo more probability!!!LOL, sorry, I just finished failing my probability exam before reading your post. But aside from that, you seemed to describe Sure Type the way I envisioned it. Like I said, if I don't mind T9 now, how can I possibly mind an essentially simpler T9 in Sure Type.

Also thanks for the info about the phone quality. That's exactly what I needed to hear. I'm sure if it works for "real" buisiness professionals, then it can work for me!

I'm still a little confused about the settlement thing, but from what I've been reading on the boards all of that is gone and over, so I'm assuming the government is still using it.

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