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Old 04-12-2006, 07:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know this has been discussed ad nausem, but there is not a clear way to tether an 8700c to a machine.

Can someone provide a way to do this if you are using Cingular Orange?

What you did on the phone?

What you did on your pc?

Did you have to call Cingular? If so, what did you do and was there a charge?

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cingular has tethering plans, but tethering an edge device seems pointless to me. its an additional 30 bucks on top of your existing BB plan. cingular communication manager 5.2x has support for the bb 8700 to be tethered
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It may be $30 but when roaming the world and having the International Data plan it becomes worth it.

I am undecided between TMO and Cingular with the 8700. THe prices are so close to one another but tethering is a decidg factor. We know we can tether with many other units but this new one is not really addressed anywhere here.
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Do you have to have Cingular do anything so you can use the software with the 8700c?

Do you have to do anything to the phone?


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cingular has tethering plans, but tethering an edge device seems pointless to me. its an additional 30 bucks on top of your existing BB plan. cingular communication manager 5.2x has support for the bb 8700 to be tethered
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I am undecided between TMO and Cingular with the 8700. THe prices are so close to one another but tethering is a decidg factor. We know we can tether with many other units but this new one is not really addressed anywhere here.
If tethering's the deciding factor then definitely go with TMO. Blackberry data plan prices definitely vary quite a bit between the two.
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Thanks Takeshi. I will!
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I'd go w/ cingular. I don't know about any other states, but in Pa and NY TMO sucks. Their coverage area wouldn't fit on a match box. Left them a while ago and have been happier ever since...
P.S... Nextel is the only company as bad as TMO...
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I have no choice. I am a Cingular customer. So I just need to know everything how to set up phone, computer to tether.
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From Cingular's Web page:

Setup of BlackBerry 8700c to Laptop Windows XP using BlackBerry Universal USB Cable for GPRS

Prerequisite

RIM BlackBerry 8700c handset purchased from Cingular.

PC with an available USB port.

BlackBerry Desktop Software installed from accompanying CD. If the CD is not available, download the most recent version of BlackBerry Desktop Software from .

User should be logged in as Administrator or have administrator privileges in the profile to modify system files.



Setting up the modem

1. On the PC, connect the USB cable from the USB port to the side of the handset. Windows will detect the handset and install the drivers.
2. Double click on the Desktop Manager icon.
3. Click on Options and then Connection Settings.
4. Click on Detect.
5. When the Warning dialog box appears, click on OK.
6. The dialog box should display: USB handheld found, then click on OK.
7. Ensure that the Connection field displays USB-PIN: and click on OK.
8. Click on Start, Settings, Control Panel and then double click on the Phone and Modem Options icon.
9. Click on the Modems tab.
10. Click once on the Standard Modem and click on Properties.
11. Click on the Advanced tab.
12. Type at+cgdcont=1,”IP”,”isp.cingular” in the Extra initialization commands field.
13. Click on OK to complete the setup.



Setting up the connection

1. On the PC, click on Start, Settings, Control Panel, and then double click on Network Connections.
2. Click on the link to Create a new connection.
3. This will open a New Connection Wizard. Click on Next to begin the setup.
4. Click to select Connect to the Internet.
5. Click on Next.
6. Click to select Set up my connection manually.
7. Click on Next.
8. Click to select Connect using a dial-up modem.
9. Click on Next.
10. Check the box to select the Standard Modem.
11. Ensure it is the only modem checked, and click on Next.
12. Type CNG GPRS for the ISP Name and click on Next.
13. Type *99# for the Phone number.
14. Click on Next.
15. If prompted, click to select whether to make this connection available for Anyone’s use, or My use only.
16. Click on Next.
17. Type [email address] in the User name field.
18. Type CINGULAR1 in the Password, and Confirm password fields.
19. Tick to select from the available options below and click on Next.
20. Click on Finish to complete the setup.



Making the connection

1. On the PC, return to the Network Connections folder and double click on the CNG GPRS icon.
2. Ensure the Dial field reads *99#.
3. Click on Dial.

You will now be connected to the Cingular GPRS service.
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If tethering's the deciding factor then definitely go with TMO. Blackberry data plan prices definitely vary quite a bit between the two.
Why either of these if tethering is so important Verizon's EVDO is much faster for that purpose. By another year we will have lots of choices to tether.
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Verizon offers very little overseas. I would keep my Sprint to tether is they worked in Europe and the Middle East.

I wonder if these settings will work internationally. And it appears by that post that Cingular will now not zap you for tethering. Very good news of course.
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These are great instructions. Anyone successful with T-Mobile? I tried Mark Reihjon's instructions but no success. I cannot get my notebook to recognize the 8700C.
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These are great instructions. Anyone successful with T-Mobile? I tried Mark Reihjon's instructions but no success. I cannot get my notebook to recognize the 8700C.

You need to completely uninstall DM and reistall the latest. There was a tmobile thread. Some of it is in my 8700 tips doc.
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Thanks Stinsondog. I just did that now I need to find the time to step through it again.
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If I have a new cingular service 8700c would I have to pay extra for tethering?
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Maybe some of the 8700 guys can be of service....

The above instructions were mentioned in a thread in the 7100 forum. I'm currently on a 7130c and was able to successfully set up tethering on my laptop last night, using just the instructions above. I have not paid for any additional service (above the BES plan I'm on), nor have I called and had anything added to my account.

Will I be charged for data usage by doing this?
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These are great instructions. Anyone successful with T-Mobile? I tried Mark Reihjon's instructions but no success. I cannot get my notebook to recognize the 8700C.
I got mine working, although I cannot access any google related site.
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Tethering works perfectly for me with T-Mobile and the 8700g. I am actually this from Starbucks with the tethered connection.

Also - I don't know if you all know this, but tethering is actually free through T-Mobile. The $20/month data plan includes not just email and web browsing but also tethering. This is for anywhere in the US (or at least continental US?).

It is also FAST. Prior to this I tethered through the 7290 and it was slow as molasses, sometimes the pages would just time out while waiting for it to load all the info. With the 8700, most pages load in under 5 seconds regardless of graphics, and sometimes just a couple seconds. It's almost as good as my DSL as far as basic browsing is concerned (not streaming video or file downloads).

I'd say go with TMO in a heartbeat.
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Tethering works perfectly for me with T-Mobile and the 8700g. I am actually writing this from Starbucks with the tethered connection.

Also - I don't know if you all know this, but tethering is actually free through T-Mobile. The $20/month data plan includes not just email and web browsing but also tethering. This is for anywhere in the US (or at least continental US?). Compare that to other companies that will charge you at least twice that (if my memory is correct), plus possibly extra for tethering. And in general, I have had amazing TMO reception in New England, better than many of my friends with Verizon, and you will get more minutes than any other company (I have 1500 plus free nights and weekends for $50/month not including data, which was a special deal). I have had some difficulties in Delaware, but only in my uncle's house which is pretty fair off the main road in a small residential community.

The 8700 TMO tether is also FAST. Prior to this I tried tethering through the 7290 and it was slow as molasses, basically unusable, sometimes the pages would just time out while waiting for it to load all the info because it couldn't get the basic page in 2 minutes. With the 8700, most "busy" pages load in about 15 seconds, and sometimes a lot less if they are cleaner. That's pretty good for a tethered phone. In sum, it's the first tether that is actually usable in situations other than being stranded on a desert island ;).

Finally - They have clear instructions set up that they will email you on request (for some reason they don't advertise it on their site). The instructions worked perfectly for me. (Don't be fooled by the fact that they have you set it up as a 19200 baud modem, because the 8700 is a lot faster than that. I think it's just an issue of configuration.)

I'd say go with TMO in a heartbeat.
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