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Old 04-19-2006, 02:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I got a link in my Hotmail to beta test the new "Windows Live" Hotmail, which I think must be their answer to Gmail. It's all ajax-y, drag-and-drop, etc. The interface is also mildly annoying, but I can't decide if it's better or worse than the classic Hotmail interface. I noticed that there is a calendar, contacts, and task list available. Has anyone gotten these syncing with their BB yet? Even if I could just import my existing appointments from my BB, that would be cool, but I can't figure out how to import into their calendar.

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To tell you the honest truth, this is just a big bunch of hoo-haw.

In recent findings the world has noticed anytime Microsoft tries to compete with google, it severly degrades it's reputation as a "strong" organization.

Perhaps they should just come to terms with reality, which is that Google's creative staff > microsoft's creative staff, and that is CLEARLY evident in the innovation curve at both companies.

This is really amusing to me for 2 reasons, which I must state for those interested.

1. In 1994, Bill Gates met with Google CEO's (obviously before they were), Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who collectively asked Gates for 1 Million Dollars (1 million/2 = $500,000 each since they felt they had earned that much through production of the search engine itself)

Of course Gates said no, because he did not have any interest "google" because in his eyes "nothing was better than Microsoft technology"

2. There is a counter somewhere on the internet but I cannot find the link yet, last time I checked it, it estimated the amount of money Microsoft has spent trying to "rival" Google is appromately 800 Million (this was of course about 3 months ago, and I have NO IDEA what happened to that counter.

Eitherway, Google's upcoming calendar release will be called CL2, and they have been beta testing features such as automatic appointment scheduling.

For example. Someone sends you a email for lunch at 12pm on next wednesday, and you reply saying "that sounds good, lets do it", google CL2, will automatically put that "lunch" appt in your calendar, and remind you via email, at your designated wakeup time, along with the rest of your schedule for the day.

This obviously is going to be very interesting for blackberry users, and I am sure there will be an integration down the line for this technology.


Anyhow, I cant wait...and sorry for the long post
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I too am anxiously awaiting CL2 (and Writely), but I'm not getting my hopes too high because CL2 is already long overdue, from what I understand.

I won't be getting rid of my Hotmail account anytime soon, though.
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^^ It wouldnt be long overdue if people wouldnt keep leaking info
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Er... in 1994, Larry Page was 21, he didn't meet Brin until they were both Ph.D. candidates at Stanford. Maybe you're thinking 1998.
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Happly using gmail, but CL2 still needs some work, like some way to syncronise with Bb or Palm. Then I'll move over to it, till then Im sticking to palm desktop, as bb doesnt have its own pc based pim and i refuse to use outlook after it corupted half my contacts last time.
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To tell you the honest truth, this is just a big bunch of hoo-haw.

In recent findings the world has noticed anytime Microsoft tries to compete with google, it severly degrades it's reputation as a "strong" organization.

Perhaps they should just come to terms with reality, which is that Google's creative staff > microsoft's creative staff, and that is CLEARLY evident in the innovation curve at both companies.

This is really amusing to me for 2 reasons, which I must state for those interested.

1. In 1994, Bill Gates met with Google CEO's (obviously before they were), Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who collectively asked Gates for 1 Million Dollars (1 million/2 = $500,000 each since they felt they had earned that much through production of the search engine itself)

Of course Gates said no, because he did not have any interest "google" because in his eyes "nothing was better than Microsoft technology"

2. There is a counter somewhere on the internet but I cannot find the link yet, last time I checked it, it estimated the amount of money Microsoft has spent trying to "rival" Google is appromately 800 Million (this was of course about 3 months ago, and I have NO IDEA what happened to that counter.

Eitherway, Google's upcoming calendar release will be called CL2, and they have been beta testing features such as automatic appointment scheduling.

For example. Someone sends you a email for lunch at 12pm on next wednesday, and you reply saying "that sounds good, lets do it", google CL2, will automatically put that "lunch" appt in your calendar, and remind you via email, at your designated wakeup time, along with the rest of your schedule for the day.

This obviously is going to be very interesting for blackberry users, and I am sure there will be an integration down the line for this technology.


Anyhow, I cant wait...and sorry for the long post
Great post, I totally agree with you
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But its fun watchin M$ burn money trying to keep up with someone else for a change. One day all PCs will be are thin clients to a mass online OS, made by google at this rate. Therefore allowing anyone to move between any system form tvs to fridges and still be able to access ther music or work. We already have basic PIM functionality and mapping. Now google are well under way with making a version of office that people use online through a web browser, which they bought off another company. I just cant wait till i can play games online on either phone or big screen with the only difference in gameplay being the controls and size of screen, even allowing a multiplayer between someone on a Bb with someone on a PC. lol.

Hum seam to have wondered a bit off topic tho. Not tried windows live sync, i have finally imported some of my data to CL2 now tho.
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This is really amusing to me for 2 reasons, which I must state for those interested.

1. In 1994, Bill Gates met with Google CEO's (obviously before they were), Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who collectively asked Gates for 1 Million Dollars (1 million/2 = $500,000 each since they felt they had earned that much through production of the search engine itself)

Of course Gates said no, because he did not have any interest "google" because in his eyes "nothing was better than Microsoft technology"
Larry Page and Sergey Brin did not even MEET each other until the summer of 1995. The first version of 'Google' was not even released until August 2006. Page worked on 'BackRub' from Fall 1995, when he first started attending Stanford, until March 1996, when it was originally tested against Page's school homepage. The crawler, in its infancy, was the brainchild of Page - Brin came on board early on to help out with the mathematics behind the search algorithms.

Gates released perhaps one of the most well-known documents on early Internet in 1994. Time Magazine stated in that same year that the Internet would never amount to anything (one of their most erroneous statements to date). The world-wide web, as we know it, was in its bare infancy at that time. There were no 'real' search engines available. A useable version of Netscape's browser was released in 1995 and they had their IPO in August of that year, which was, to most, the birth of what we would consider the Internet boom.
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he was also the man to say what was it something like 640Kb is as much system ram as anyone will need. lol
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I'm proud to say I used CompuServe's text based service over a 2400bps modem in the early 90's. I think the number of web pages at the time was somewhere in the thousands. We switched to AOL pretty soon after that because they had a graphical service.
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The first version of 'Google' was not even released until August 2006.
Time-travel much?

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dc/dc, telix baby!!!
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I remember being told about google when our school 1st moved from Acorns to Pcs. Lookin at the history http://www.google.com/corporate/history.html we must have been amongst the 1st users. But i do remember switching to it straight away at home once i knew about it, as its got hardly no pictures which was a bonus on dialup on a very dated, even then, 286. lol.
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Larry Page and Sergey Brin did not even MEET each other until the summer of 1995. The first version of 'Google' was not even released until August 2006. Page worked on 'BackRub' from Fall 1995, when he first started attending Stanford, until March 1996, when it was originally tested against Page's school homepage. The crawler, in its infancy, was the brainchild of Page - Brin came on board early on to help out with the mathematics behind the search algorithms.

Gates released perhaps one of the most well-known documents on early Internet in 1994. Time Magazine stated in that same year that the Internet would never amount to anything (one of their most erroneous statements to date). The world-wide web, as we know it, was in its bare infancy at that time. There were no 'real' search engines available. A useable version of Netscape's browser was released in 1995 and they had their IPO in August of that year, which was, to most, the birth of what we would consider the Internet boom.
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If you know that the first version of google was released in "August 2006" then would you mind telling me tommorrows winning lottery number?

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If you know that the first version of google was released in "August 2006" then would you mind telling me tommorrows winning lottery number?

hehe
hah. there was a really good article on Google in a magazine a few months back, celebrating the 10th year anniversary of the world-wide web. i have a good memory.

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he was also the man to say what was it something like 640Kb is as much system ram as anyone will need. lol
Guys, get over that one. nearly 30 years ago, Gates is not really a hardware guy, and it was in respopnse to IBM wanting to find ways to address more than 104K with a 8086. The same IBM that thought that they'd never sell more than 250,000 of those 'Personnal Computer' things.
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The same person who convinced programers to move to closed source principals, amongst the 1st with the message atleast. could pick holes in software made too but thats not all him an does hav however many million lines of code.

Anyway thers already plenty of spaces on th web consumed with gates hate, oh it rhymes. lol. So ill say this now... END.
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I too am anxiously awaiting CL2 (and Writely), but I'm not getting my hopes too high because CL2 is already long overdue, from what I understand.

I won't be getting rid of my Hotmail account anytime soon, though.

I know this is way off but does any one have a writely account, b/c i have been looking for an writely invite.
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