BlackBerry Forums Support Community
              

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-06-2006, 04:48 PM   #121 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Model: 8700c
Carrier: Cingular
Posts: 203
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Please Login to Remove!

Quote:
Originally Posted by wuberry
I'll admit it's VERY hard to follow this thread, so if the answer to my question is here ... I'll apologize in advance.


Was it ever determined if the new reduced-price unlimited plan applies to people on BES? If it does, what's that purpose of the current $45/month plan. Is it just going away (hopefully)?
I think the opinion that wins this in the thread is that BES will stay at the $45 rate, but I think it's probably best to wait until they put out the public announcement and see what they really have to offer.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 04:53 PM   #122 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
stripesace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Birmingham, AL
Model: 8300
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 392
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Yeah, I'm hoping its a price reduction across the board, 15 bucks difference to use a BES is kind ridiculous.
__________________
John
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 04:57 PM   #123 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
Seattle18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Seattle
Model: Curve
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 1,610
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I don't see why it matters if you use a BES. How does that impact Cingular? If anything, it lightens their load!
__________________
My heart belongs to Liv...
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 05:02 PM   #124 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Model: 8800c
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 72
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle18
Check out these screenshots I just took. Look at number 2 under POP Download. You can set Gmail to either keep it in the inbox after being pulled by pop, delete it, or archive it. So I guess the issue has been fixed.


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...turedata78.png http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ata1315377.png
Thanks -- that setting does look new. I'll have to try it again to see if it actually works.

EDIT: Nope. Still doesn't work. Guess I'll stick with Yahoo.

Last edited by bigboy : 06-06-2006 at 05:18 PM.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 05:47 PM   #125 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 8900
OS: 5.0.0.509
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 272
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
If a pop client pulls mail from my gmail account, the other pop clients I use don't see it. It's as if gmail is marking something read for me, which I don't want -- shouldn't the client be the one evaluating if something should be downloaded?

I know my requirements are a corner case, but I haven't seen this issue with any other pop implementations.

That's why I call it braindead.
I'm not sure if this is the same, as you seem to have more POP knowledge than me, but when I receive something from my gmail on my BB it is left on their server and I can still pull it down from Outlook 2003 marked as unopened.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 06:02 PM   #126 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
Seattle18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Seattle
Model: Curve
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 1,610
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy

EDIT: Nope. Still doesn't work. Guess I'll stick with Yahoo.
It does work. I just tested it three times. When I POP my Gmail account to my Apple Mail inbox, the Gmail copy remains in the inbox, unread. If yours does not, then it is not Gmail, it is your email program's setting. You must have it set to something like Remove From Server after it checks the Gmail acct, or you do not have a box checked that reads something like Leave Copy on Server. It's not the Gmail side though.
__________________
My heart belongs to Liv...
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 06:09 PM   #127 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
gadgetjunkies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ohio
Model: 8820
PIN: Depends which BB I am using
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 328
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle18
I don't see why it matters if you use a BES. How does that impact Cingular? If anything, it lightens their load!
I use EMM as my BES. How does Cingular know what I use? Begs the question of why wouldn't my price drop to the $29.99?
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 06:25 PM   #128 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Model: 8800c
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 72
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle18
It does work. I just tested it three times. When I POP my Gmail account to my Apple Mail inbox, the Gmail copy remains in the inbox, unread. If yours does not, then it is not Gmail, it is your email program's setting. You must have it set to something like Remove From Server after it checks the Gmail acct, or you do not have a box checked that reads something like Leave Copy on Server. It's not the Gmail side though.
The copy of the e-mail still resides in the Gmail inbox unread -- I can see it on my browser. However the second pop client does not see it.

Your test is missing a second pop client trying to download the message (try downloading the messages on Apple Mail on either two different machines or accounts). Viewing the message from the Gmail browser interface does not count as a second pop client.

Last edited by bigboy : 06-06-2006 at 06:28 PM.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 06:26 PM   #129 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Model: 8800c
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 72
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston S.
I'm not sure if this is the same, as you seem to have more POP knowledge than me, but when I receive something from my gmail on my BB it is left on their server and I can still pull it down from Outlook 2003 marked as unopened.
Are you forwarding your Gmail or are you accessing Gmail via BIS accounts?
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 06:36 PM   #130 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
jdjleo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: PacBell
Model: 8700c
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 286
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dozment
I think the opinion that wins this in the thread is that BES will stay at the $45 rate, but I think it's probably best to wait until they put out the public announcement and see what they really have to offer.
Seems to be the question of the day,
__________________
-jdjleo-
Decepticon Leader
8700c Telstra Zen
The New at&t

Last edited by jdjleo : 07-09-2006 at 01:05 AM.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 06:49 PM   #131 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
stripesace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Birmingham, AL
Model: 8300
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 392
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

How does Tmo differentiate between BES and BIS users, becasue you cant sign up for a BIS plan and use BES. You suddenly upgrade and you can do enterprise activations.
__________________
John
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 08:26 PM   #132 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: nyc
Model: 7250
Carrier: VZW
Posts: 143
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
Wirelessly posted (Cingular-Blue 7290: BlackBerry7290/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/101)



I don't know if this is related, but isn't everything by Google still in Beta?
Is Yahoo?

Steve
lol. true, but i'll take a beta gmail over hotmail/livemail/yahoo any day.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 08:39 PM   #133 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 7105t
Posts: 981
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

From my experience, I just called a CSR and asked to be put on one of the BIS plans. If you ask for a certain plan, they will sign u up for it. However, even if you are NOT on a BES, you still get the BES Activation icon on the home screen, which I don't understand why. I hide mine. Anyone know why this icon shows up even if you're not on BES? I don't plan on changing plans until needed.
__________________
PIN: 23CF4BE6
Yahoo: ericablackberry
GTalk: ericablackberry
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 09:12 PM   #134 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 8900
OS: 5.0.0.509
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 272
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
Are you forwarding your Gmail or are you accessing Gmail via BIS accounts?
I am accessing my gmail via a BIS account.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 09:25 PM   #135 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Model: 8800c
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 72
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston S.
I am accessing my gmail via a BIS account.
I meant if you are having Gmail forward your mail to your BIS account or have set up BIS to access your e-mail via POP.... Sorry for the confusion.

Anyway, sorry to everyone else to go on this tangent. I'll stop here.
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 09:30 PM   #136 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
rollerbones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ohio
Model: 9800
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 95
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I see this topic has changed into a yahoo/gmail how to topic
__________________
Currently use: Torch 9800 (unless I cant get the WiFi to auto connect, then I am getting a Galaxy S Android)
Offline  
Old 06-06-2006, 10:59 PM   #137 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 8900
OS: 5.0.0.509
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 272
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
I meant if you are having Gmail forward your mail to your BIS account or have set up BIS to access your e-mail via POP.... Sorry for the confusion.

Anyway, sorry to everyone else to go on this tangent. I'll stop here.
I have BIS setup to access my Gmail via POP I believe.
Offline  
Old 06-07-2006, 12:36 AM   #138 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
TmoTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 8700g
Posts: 64
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

T-mo does charge more for standalone bb data, ten dollars more, so that isnt bad..
Offline  
Old 06-07-2006, 01:00 AM   #139 (permalink)
No longer Registered.
 
digital/blasphemy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 'Bama
Model: 8700g
Posts: 200
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stripesace
How does Tmo differentiate between BES and BIS users, becasue you cant sign up for a BIS plan and use BES. You suddenly upgrade and you can do enterprise activations.
your account must be provisioned for Enterprise service
Offline  
Old 06-07-2006, 01:01 AM   #140 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
Lex Luthor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Model: 9800
Carrier: xxx9824;xxx9824;xxx9824;xxx9824;xxx9824;
Posts: 1,620
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I just wish here in Canada BlackBerry data was cheaper on Rogers Wireless. $60/25MB w/ $7 per/MB over I wish I was a Cingular custie sometimes
Offline  




Copyright 2004-2016 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.