8700g Plan Question for T-mobile users
I have been trolling the boards looking for a straight forward answer...called T-mobile and got an answer, but what little information i have found about the topic online it....suprisingly enough...conflicts with what T-mobile has told me. This is where i turn to you all.....help if you can.
I have the 8700g with T-mobile (as mentioned above), and i was wondering about the instant messenging services they say is an included feature with the blackberry. When you go to t-mobile they have a seperate section on how to get it and everything...my question is...since i have the "BlackBerry Unlimited w/Enterprise Email Add-on ($29.98) " plan...is this service free as in "data" or does it use "SMS" in which i will be paying a price later if it is heavily used.
After getting off the phone with T-mobile they told me it is included and is considered "DATA" and not "SMS"....yet around the forums i get conflicting type conversations on the topic.
So...is anyone here using the service and is it free (meaning part of the current plan i am already paying for)? Or am i missing something....i have submitted the question by email to T-mobile as well....and will post my answer here if i dont get any response from you guys....to further help others on the topic.
thanks in advance,
The data included in the BlackBerry plans is unlimited meaning you pay one price for unlimited email, browsing and 3rd party applications. The only difference in price is that 2 of the plans (there are a total of 6) do not feature voice minutes and 4 do have voice minutes.
The unlimited messaging is for unlimited text/picture/video messages. That bundle (which I have) is $14.99 for a single user or $9.99 on a family plan. There are 2 other bundles that have 400 messages for $4.99, and 1000 messages for $9.99.
Hope this helps.
I am on TMO also and went thru the same issue. I ended up downloading BB Messenger to make sure that I was using "Data" instead of SMS. Besides who wants to talk with anyone who doesn't own a BB?
Go to Options> SMS> Network to send over- Click trackwheel> Change to GPRS> Save. if you can send SMS messeges with that setting, you can use the OZ messenger and not worry about extra charges.
Good luck, it seems that it does not work for everyone.
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I use it and to my knowing, it uses data. Now, here's the kicker! I was on the phone 2 days ago and I received messages from someone on my aim part of the included instant messaging service. I have the unlimited data with bes just as you do, but I also have unlimited text messaging. I haven't seen any increase in my use of text messages either. Feel free to ask more questions if you like.
Google Talk phillyslickster
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I had a similar issue. I think or rather they have given me the impression that Instant Messaging via Yahoo, MSN, etc. uses SMS. I do have an unlimited messaging package, so I am covered, just in case.
I'm going to follow up on this, but I was told it uses data. Yet, I was shocked to have received the messages while - was on the phone, which has lead me to believe that it possibly does use sms. Like you mistwalker, the unlimited sms has me covered.
The OZ Aim client that come with the BB from TMobile most definately uses SMS messages. TMobile also told me that AIM was included in the data plan but I am 100% positive it uses SMS messages because I had $24 in SMS charges after one month. If you want an AIM client that uses the data plan, try a third party app like RambleIM or Verichat.
When I first bought my 7100t I called Tmo and asked them if AIM is included in the data plan and they told me it wasn't. So I opted for unlimited text for 9.99(family plan). That helps because I know some people who tell their friends not to (sms)text them or dont 'IM' because it uses up their text messages.
You could try and wait for your bill but I wouldn't. Like someone already said try ramble. It's free and works better than that OZ IM anyway.
I have $59 1000 and mail plan. When I log in to mytmobile web site plan I have unlimited messaging, and email listed separately. SMS is unlimited under the messaging part I would assume. I will have confirmation when I get my first bill.
( Start Date: 06/14/06 - End Date: 07/13/06 )
Period Type Included Used Remaining
Text Messages Whenever Messages Unlimited 3.0 Unlimited
Call Forward Conditional Whenever Minutes 500. 0.0 500.0
Free Minutes Whenever Minutes 1000.0 55.0 945.0 remaining
RIM Blackberry Whenever Megabytes Unlimited 13.67 Unlimited
Here is breakdown from call detail header.
Shows text messages unlimited as well as BB plan unlimited.
From my previous experience, Verichat works best from the third party apps. Ramble doesn't have an audible alert for 7100 and 8700 series and it signs itself out automatically.
I guess since I have unlimited sms that I've never really noticed, but I also haven't been using the oz client a lot.
There is a lot of confusion about this and I have had to work quite a bit the T-mobile to get it worked out for several people here.
The OZ messenger that comes with the phone uses SMS.
Google Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger downloaded separately do NOT use SMS.
BlackBerry Add-On plans do NOT include free SMS
BlackBerry plans (such as BlackBerry Minutes and Mail) include free unlimited SMS. (but you can not add unlimited Mobile to Mobile to it)
BlackBerry Business plans vary in the number of SMS messages allowed, the one I am currently using includes 500.
Thanks for all your help and responses....
To help matters further, i swung by T-mobile this morning...since i did not get a response back from the Email your question to T-mobile part of the site.
He told me....My plan as listed above comes with 300 messages...i was already paying $2.99 for 300 text messages so he said that would add with my 300 through my BB plan so i have 600 text messages (explained it different but thats the way it works.
He also confirmed what many have said here....the OZ chat client DOES use SMS so for all those wondering from now on.....the homework has been done.
I dont really need AIM or Yahoo...i want MSN, but i want to use MSN like my google talk and RIM Yahoo messenger works....i tried emsn but you have to stay logged in and slow on send and recieve....dont think there are many other free clients out there that work any better....or?
thanks again to everyone!!!
Sounds like you are still being fed BS. I have T-Mobile BIS so here are my 3 rules:
1. If ANY T-Mobile people tell you anything that sounds good, or to good to be true, then it isn't.
2. Make anyone who gives you an "offer" or "great deal" put that in the Notes section of your account. Then call back and verify the note is actually there. Get names and ID #'s EVERYTIME you are negotiating a contract. Good advice any othe time too.
3. Trust ONLY the contract you have printed out in your hot little hand. If it ain't on there...don't trust what anyone says.
After reading this forum about a week ago I called t-mo and asked if I had unlimited text messages because when I logged into my account online it said I did. The t-mo person confirmed this and I had them put it in the notes....just as a side note, I got my 8700g from amazon.com if that may have made the difference....its the 8700g with 1000min and the unlimited bb plan.
To add insult to injury....i swear....i finally got my email back from T-mobile....and here is yet another response that differs from what was said at the T-mobile store (which he confirmed with a phone call)
So if the oz client counts as sms and 3rd party apps are DATA then does jivetalk count as a R
3rd party app? Meaning its free? Right? Tmobile is very sneaky..
You need to verify this on an app-by-app basis. There's no universal rule that makes all third party clients data. A developer could certainly create an IM app that uses SMS.
One insteresting question...Can OZ masseging work with OS 4.2.x.
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