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Old 06-28-2006, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As an original Treo fan from the beginning, I made the move from the Treo 650 to the BlackBerry 8700 when the latter first came out.

Today I had an hour to compare the new 700P with the 8700. All the old Treo software came back to me. I truly had fun with it.

And when the hour was done, it was a slam dunk. I can't really understand why anyone would give up their 8700 for the Treo. From feel to keyboard to quality, I love the BlackBerry more than ever.
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most people will say that it is all the free software titles that you can get for a palm. i say they loose their shine when you are always fixing the device. i can't really speak on the 700p, but i have worked on plenty of 600 and 650 treos.
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As an original Treo fan from the beginning, I made the move from the Treo 650 to the BlackBerry 8700 when the latter first came out.

Today I had an hour to compare the new 700P with the 8700. All the old Treo software came back to me. I truly had fun with it.

And when the hour was done, it was a slam dunk. I can't really understand why anyone would give up their 8700 for the Treo. From feel to keyboard to quality, I love the BlackBerry more than ever.
Personally, I don't think there's any way to compare a Blackberry and other mobile email devices.

A Blackberry is secure and extremely reliable, and although there's lots of games, and small apps will never be a media player, or a camera, or support external memory (IMHO) due to security issues (and the Federal Government is the largest BB device community because of that fact).

A Treo is fun, can take pics, play media, run apps like Excel and Word (with almost as limited use as viewing those docs on a BB), and can use unlimited amounts of external memory. However, it crashes, locks up, is FAR from secure (compared to the BB), and tends to have more issues than a BB.

The phone on BOTH is inferior to a new Cell phone like the Razor, but both are now usable.

So take your pick - fun (not to say the BB is a drag) or reliability / security. The choice is yours!
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As an original Treo fan from the beginning, I made the move from the Treo 650 to the BlackBerry 8700 when the latter first came out.

Today I had an hour to compare the new 700P with the 8700. All the old Treo software came back to me. I truly had fun with it.

And when the hour was done, it was a slam dunk. I can't really understand why anyone would give up their 8700 for the Treo. From feel to keyboard to quality, I love the BlackBerry more than ever.
Personally, I don't think there's any way to compare a Blackberry and other mobile email devices.

A Blackberry is secure and extremely reliable, and although there's lots of games, and small apps will never be a media player, or a camera, or support external memory (IMHO) due to security issues (and the Federal Government is the largest BB device community because of that fact).

A Treo is fun, can take pics, play media, run apps like Excel and Word (with almost as limited use as viewing those docs on a BB), and can use unlimited amounts of external memory. However, it crashes, locks up, is FAR from secure (compared to the BB), and tends to have more issues than a BB.

The phone on BOTH is inferior to a new Cell phone like the Razor, but both are now usable.

So take your pick - fun (not to say the BB is a drag) or reliability / security. The choice is yours!
What makes the razr so special? Yeah, it thin but it's basically the same motorola software motorola has been using for the last 3 years.
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What makes the razr so special? Yeah, it thin but it's basically the same motorola software motorola has been using for the last 3 years.
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Ditto on the razor.
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I actually have both an 8700 and Treo 650. This week since converting to BIS 2.0 I've had issues, such as not getting email. Went to the Treo for a couple of days and couldn't believe how much I missed my Blackberry. They are both good products, but give me my 8700. So guess I'm officially addicted.
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The Razor is a fad IMO. But it is the first device to have that thin look and cool feel (again it's a fad). But the Razor does have superior call quality when compaired to the BB or Treo. I will also point out that because they are mass produced as compaired to the BB or Treo, quality does seem to be lacking. I have seen some razors crash for no reason.
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What makes the razr so special? Yeah, it thin but it's basically the same motorola software motorola has been using for the last 3 years.
Amen brother! We just roll our eyes when we get a new Moto demo and we see those same tired-ass 80's looking icons in their menu..even the v3i /sigh

Moto is demoing some of their lineup for this year right now. Guess what...no software update in the near future. Looks like Moto is gonna ride the RAZR wave as far as they can while living in the past....
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The Razor is a fad IMO.
Actually its not.

A fad fades. The RAZR has inspired the future of mobile phones. All the high end phones you will see coming out later this year to early next year have a very RAZResque look and feel to them.

The RAZR is an icon. Its the first phone to be really THIS well known. Before noone would come up and be like "whoah thats a v60i, huh?"

EVERYone knows what a RAZR is and looks like.
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heh btw Im not a big RAZR fan or anything...just putting it into perspective =)
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A fad fades. The RAZR has inspired the future of mobile phones. All the high end phones you will see coming out later this year to early next year have a very RAZResque look and feel to them.
Do you have any examples? Maybe the technology inside the Razor is unique. But I think the overall design is going to fade. I just don't see why the Razor is any different vs other clam shell style phones in terms of functionality, other than it's thin and has bluetooth capabilites. IMO the Razors are toys. If anything I see the general consumer market moving to a larger more capable phone/pda, like BB's, Treo's and Moto Q's. Simply because of increasing data bandwidth on the carrier side to push more applications like video/audio and lets not forget the marketing people where they can show ads for every news clip you want to watch You will have personal information management like managing your bank account from your phone, Electronic personal identity on your phone, this could include electronic credit cards are integrated into the phone so all you have to do is swipe your phone when purchacing anything kinda like how speedpass works now.

IMO, I think the futrue phone is going to be your everything. Just like your wallet is now. Just it's all on your phone. Drivers licence data, Bank account data, Health/Medical data i.e. health insureance cards and info a parmedic needs to know about your medical condition (diabetic, allergies just the essential basics for those who need to know).

While I still don't think a hard copy of most of your information will not go away. You will just have the option to store it electronicaly on your pda/phone.
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Do you have any examples? Maybe the technology inside the Razor is unique. But I think the overall design is going to fade.
Actually you have it backwards, brother =)

Its the design that was revolutionary and continues to be knocked off and copied. The Moto os is old and busted. It desperately needs a rehaul.

As for examples, im glad you asked! And boy do I! They are everywhere. Like i said the RAZR is iconic.

Samsungs direct answer to RAZR and SLVR
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/zoom.php?p=824&g=1
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/zoom.php?p=970&g=1

Samsungs answer to the upcoming V3i
http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/s..._sch-v740.html

More RAZR-inspired designs for your viewing pleasure
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=678
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/zoom.php?p=865&g=1

The future of the RAZR
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/m...ral&h=p1060342
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EVERYone knows what a RAZR is and looks like.
Everyone, except me.
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I have had 5 treo 650's in the matter of 2 weeks prior to changing to BB 8700c. The Treo is not a bad device but the OS is not stable, and from what I hear the 700w is no better. I cannpt say regarding thr 700p, but I will not touch a Treo for a long long time. It was great then it worked, but the that was rare. Everytime I would look at the device it would reboot. The last reboot it was stuck on "palm powered" and would not get past that point. I at least saved my info on the SD.

My wife who is a medical doctor used the Treo 650 for her medical info since the programs are geared for Medicine vs. the BB. She at one point felt it was ok to leave her ref. book home and use only the Palm and that was the day her palm died in the middle of a case. So we sent all 650's back to Cing. and I got the 8700 and she got the Nokia 6682.


Bottom line, stay away from Palm for a long time, until they work out the bugs. I agree they have nice programs and "toys" but I think most of us here use our BB for email, SMS, and in caertain cases net.
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whoah...gross. How is she liking that?

a TREO and a Nokia 6682 arent really even in the same ballpark? You guys kinda got taken on that one. You might wanna look into getting them to give her a Nokia 9300, thats more on the level of a PDA/Smartphone.

Not that i like the 9300 /shrug But atleast has the ability to do BB Push Email with a BBconnect feature.

Our best PDA's imo are the 8700c 7130c and HTC 8125 imo. i wouldnt even consider the rest...
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Before I had my BB, I had a RAZR and still keeping it as backup. I am 100% on my BB now and will only use the RAZR if we want to go somewhere and not carry my BB around in fear of being stolen or damaged. The RAZR is a good backup. Slip in my SIM card from the 8700 and go.

Its voice quality is great. Hacked into the phone and increased the volume.

Hands down... I am addicted to my BB.
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if we want to go somewhere and not carry my BB around in fear of being stolen or damaged. The RAZR is a good backup. Slip in my SIM card from the 8700 and go.
That is nice, isnt it? Go-Go Gadget GSM!

I do the same thing, i leave my BB at home when i hit the bars and clubs. Only i use a w600i.

Dont want the BB getting dropped or lost in a drunken stupor lol

But more importantly i have yet to meet a girl impressed by the size of my BlackBerry lolz! =P
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Actually she loves the 6682 and only uses it as a phone and to take pics of our kids... just basic stuff.

She has no need to have BB, since all her calls are pushed to 1 of 4 pagers... lol She only used Treo for its apps, not for email. Now it's back to old school.


As far as being taken for a ride, I got the treo for 124.99 and actually by changing I got more for my money.

I love my BB 8700, but there are no medical apps, so in the medical world BB is far behind Treo's.
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It's rather basic, but check out BEIKS Dictionary Reader for pills. You can download it OTA.
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