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Old 08-14-2006, 09:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Considering BB 8700 and have a couple of questions

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I am coming from a series of Series 60 Nokias (sorry about the redundance) and seriously considering a BB 8700 as my next phone (the Nokia E61 is also being considered), as I want a QWERTY keyboard. I have a Cingular 8125 I hate.

I am completely unfamiliar with the BB O/S, but have always seen all application icons/shortcuts on the "desktop". I was wondering if there was a way to create your own shortcut folders to organize items like you can in Series 60 and Windows Mobile phones. Thing is I can have 100 applications installed at any point in time and having 100 icons on the desktop doesn't sound very practical, especially when you have to learn all the little pictures, since you don't see the name of the application until you place the curson on it.

Which brings me to my next question... How is the application base for the O/S on the BB 8700? I am pretty satisfied with what's out there for Series 60. I've had at least 4 different POP/IMAP e-mail clients (ProfiMail being the most memorable), 6 instant messengers (IM+, VeriChat and Agile Messenger shine here), 4 Internet browsers (Opera and NetFront rule), several RSS readers, etc. By the way, this is the type of application I will be mostly using. Will I be able to find a good set of applications for the BB too?

Thank you all in advance!
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Which brings me to my next question... How is the application base for the O/S on the BB 8700? I am pretty satisfied with what's out there for Series 60. I've had at least 4 different POP/IMAP e-mail clients (ProfiMail being the most memorable), 6 instant messengers (IM+, VeriChat and Agile Messenger shine here), 4 Internet browsers (Opera and NetFront rule), several RSS readers, etc. By the way, this is the type of application I will be mostly using. Will I be able to find a good set of applications for the BB too?

Thank you all in advance!
I can try to answer part of this question:

1. The software base for the BB OS isn't bad, it's certainly gotten better in the last year, however, there are not as many apps for the BB OS as there are for the Symbian OS.

2. There is a built-in "personal" email setup on the BB OS which provides support for all types of mail servers. However, IMAP isn't true IMAP if that is what you were looking for. IMAP on the blackberry is more of a polling/pop type setup which is one way from your IMAP account to your BB. You would not be able to move mail around and delete it on your IMAP account as you are accustomed to with a "true" IMAP client.

3. There are instant messengers galore available, some free, some pay once, some subscription.

as for anything else you asked about, maybe someone else can assist.

Good Luck.
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If you have up to 100 apps installed on your phone, don't even think about a BlackBerry! You will be consistently annoyed by the lack of apps, and the fact that even the most basic app costs more than it should, and might even require a yearly subscription. Compared to Windows Mobile, Palm OS, or Nokia, the BlackBerry development community is practically nonexistent.

The way I like to put it is that on average, if there are 10 competing programs to do something on a Palm, there will be 5 or 6 on a Windows Mobile device, 4 or 5 on a Series 60, and if you are lucky 1 on the BlackBerry. Now when you get into specific areas like remote network management, there is a lot of software for the BlackBerry, but all of that requires expensive sever software to work. On the whole, you will probably find that at least half, if not far more, of your 100 apps have no equivalent on the BB. Those that do have an equivalent, will probably have a much less polished equivalent, that costs you more money than you would have paid on another system. Pretty much as soon as you get into any of the really polished apps, you will find that they either require a server component, or for a subscription to a hosted component of the software.

BlackBerries do what they do really well, but third party software is pretty much one of the things they just don't do.

Oh, and no you can't organize icons like you want to, but then it isn't really an issue, because I seriously doubt you could find 100 unique apps you would want to run on a BlackBerry.
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I can try to answer part of this question...
Thanks so much for your input. Yes, I would need a real IMAP client, as I have a couple of AIM mail accounts that I need to manage as real IMAP.

I would also need to make sure the e-mail client has SMTP authentication.

By the way, as you said, there are tons of applications for Series 60. However, still very few for the new Series 60 3rd. Edition that comes with the E61. This number will grow quickly, though.

Thanks again.
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You will be consistently annoyed by the lack of apps...
Thank you. Your comparison of the application base between Palm O/S, Windows Mobile, Symbian Series 60 and BlackBerry O/S made it quite clear to me.
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I second what Imlloyd said about third party applications. I switched from a Nokia 9500 communitcator to the BB 8700 G last week and feel the pinch of lack of applications a bit. But as far as saving time goes, I've found BB to be saving more time at work. My team now use the BB messenger (as a part of an initiative my company gave BBs to all the members in my team) & it's looking good for now. The e-mail client that is built in is awesome if you use Lotus Notes.
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I always ask the 14,000 BB users in my firm what do they need to get done and how many devices will they carry. The BB is awesome as a work device and certain functionalites: IM, Google Maps, Passwords, but don't expect it to have all the different apps. All depends on personal needs.
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