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Old 10-30-2006, 03:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all! My wife and I are the proud new owners of two new 8700g Blackberry units from T-Mobile. So far we love them! Before I ask my question, I want to say that this forum is a TREASURE for people with Blackberry phones. What a great resource! ...And you have no one to thank but yourselves... So, thank you all!

We signed up for unlimited data on both phones. Come to find out, that we have been charged for each and every Instant message that we've sent through AOL, MSN, ICQ, and Yahoo IM. What gives?!?? Last time I looked, those were all (adapted) programs that ran on the internet... not on an SMS system! We were using the "OZ" client that T-Mobile recommended. Is there anyway to get around using IM programs on the Blackberry without being charged for text messaging? We know that we can use email... and I just found out that we can use PIN for messages between each other... but what about all our friends that are using AOL, MSN, Yahoo IM, etc on their desktop computers at home and work?? Are we just out of luck unless we want to pay for text messaging?

Give me some good news here.

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Old 10-30-2006, 03:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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delete the OZ from tmo. download ym, gtalk or blackberry messenger from mobile.blackberry.com using your bb browser.
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello all! My wife and I are the proud new owners of two new 8700g Blackberry units from T-Mobile. So far we love them! Before I ask my question, I want to say that this forum is a TREASURE for people with Blackberry phones. What a great resource! ...And you have no one to thank but yourselves... So, thank you all!

We signed up for unlimited data on both phones. Come to find out, that we have been charged for each and every Instant message that we've sent through AOL, MSN, ICQ, and Yahoo IM. What gives?!?? Last time I looked, those were all (adapted) programs that ran on the internet... not on an SMS system! We were using the "OZ" client that T-Mobile recommended. Is there anyway to get around using IM programs on the Blackberry without being charged for text messaging? We know that we can use email... and I just found out that we can use PIN for messages between each other... but what about all our friends that are using AOL, MSN, Yahoo IM, etc on their desktop computers at home and work?? Are we just out of luck unless we want to pay for text messaging?

Give me some good news here.

Thanks!!
When you first run the OZ client, it will/must ask you a question regarding if you are willing to use the SMS as the connection to send IMs (it might be wording differently).
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Thanks for the replies.... I'll try some of those links.

Any chance that anyone knows of a a free IM client for MSN messenger? It's what we use most often. If not, I *suppose* we could change to Yahoo or something.
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Thanks for the replies.... I'll try some of those links.

Any chance that anyone knows of a a free IM client for MSN messenger? It's what we use most often. If not, I *suppose* we could change to Yahoo or something.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies.... I'll try some of those links.

Any chance that anyone knows of a a free IM client for MSN messenger? It's what we use most often. If not, I *suppose* we could change to Yahoo or something.
I use GTalk for MSN and am quite happy with the performance. A lot of others here have recently been raving about mig33 for free MSN:

mig33 for free MSN Messenger
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Am I understanding this right, gtalk is not charged a per message rate by T-Mobile? It is basically included with the 'unlimited data' plan?
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I got the same plan from T-Mobile, I noticed before I got over my 300 messages that came with the plan (just in time). I just added an add-on to my plan for $14.99 I get unlimited text, pictures, and IMs. My total bill is $56 a month.
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I'm wondering where gtalk falls into, is it part of the unlimited data plan or is it part of the unlimited text messages plan? If I drop unlimited IMs and keep unlimited data, is gtalk still free?
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Google talk, Ramble, Yak-on, etc... use data not sms, so no extra charges. Some are free, others you pay for.
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Thanks for the replies.... I'll try some of those links.

Any chance that anyone knows of a a free IM client for MSN messenger? It's what we use most often. If not, I *suppose* we could change to Yahoo or something.
Greetings spacegazr and Welcome to the Forum.

If you launch your browser, click the trackwheel and chose Links / BlackBerry HELP, they have a link on the page. It allows you to download the newest version of Yahoo messenger for BlackBerry.

I have used this very succesfully without any extra charges. In addition its faster and a bit easier to use than the version that you can download off the Yahoo site. I believe it's a different version as it's on the RIM website with their endorsement. Yahoo and BlackBerry are playing much nicer together after the very recent agreement to cooperate on standards.

An example is I use both Gmail and Yahoo Mail, and it used to be that Gmail was the fastest, and now the tables have turned and Yahoo Push Mail beats it significantly.

To confirm there is no charge for you to use this, you might call your carrier in advance.

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Greetings spacegazr and Welcome to the Forum.

If you launch your browser, click the trackwheel and chose Links / BlackBerry HELP, they have a link on the page. It allows you to download the newest version of Yahoo messenger for BlackBerry.

I have used this very succesfully without any extra charges. In addition its faster and a bit easier to use than the version that you can download off the Yahoo site. I believe it's a different version as it's on the RIM website with their endorsement. Yahoo and BlackBerry are playing much nicer together after the very recent agreement to cooperate on standards.

An example is I use both Gmail and Yahoo Mail, and it used to be that Gmail was the fastest, and now the tables have turned and Yahoo Push Mail beats it significantly.

To confirm there is no charge for you to use this, you might call your carrier in advance.

Cheers...
With the colaboration between MSN and yaho, can one add all their MSN contacts in there too?
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If you're going to switch over you should just make the switch to gTalk. If you go to Google Mobile you can get all of Google's mobile apps for your blackberry there.

I have gTalk and it works great. It's also one of the cleanest IM apps you can put on your PC.
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Google talk, Ramble, Yak-on, etc... use data not sms, so no extra charges. Some are free, others you pay for.
To that regard, make sure the program you are downloading does not require MDS/BES...I tried WebMessenger prior to getting BES and it wouldn't work.
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Yeah the text based AIM sucks ass, not only do you get charged (I have the unlimited text option though for $9.99) the live internet based ones are so much better anyways.
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According to one of the above responses:
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Gtalk will connect to the AIM protocal? How is this done? I can't seem to find that option.

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Gtalk will connect to the AIM protocal? How is this done? I can't seem to find that option.

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