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Old 12-29-2006, 01:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just purchased an 8700g and was wondering if there were any turn by turn GPS solutions out there for my phone. I have searched the forum, and all I find are solutions for other peoples phones. So far, I can view email and talk on instant messenger. Beyond that I would say I can do as much or more on my razr. What is the main reason why people buy the BB ? It doesnt have a touch screen, it doesnt have a camera, it doesnt appear to have GPS built in, it doesnt work with my Powerbook unless I pay $50 for third party software?

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Old 12-29-2006, 01:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmmm...
BB's do sync with Mac's - software is now free - unless you purchased an older model.
You knew about the lack of touch screen and camera. Only Sprint/Nextel units have active GPS in them.
If you needed the features above - Why did you purchase it?
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What do you mean by sync with the mac? I meant it doesn't work as a modem for the powerbook unless you buy the 3rd party software (unless there is something new I dont know about). I could use my razr as a modem right out of the box. As far as the camera goes I knew it didnt have it, I was just using it as a comparison like "it doesnt have this and that...so why did you buy it?" I wanted to hear some reasons why other people bought their blackberries. Also, I think its absurd that the Pearl has GPS and the 8700g doesn't. Is it official that I wont be able to get turn by turn directions with my phone?

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Old 12-29-2006, 02:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I just purchased an 8700g and was wondering if there were any turn by turn GPS solutions out there for my phone.
From what I've seen, Telenav (and a requisite Bluetooth GPS puck) is your best bet.

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What is the main reason why people buy the BB ?
True push email (that doesn't chew through batteries)

I'd also add:
Reliability (#1 for me)
Wireless sync (with BES 4.0+)
Exchange integration (again, with BES)
PIN messaging
Real web browsing @ EDGE speeds

I'd hardly say that a RAZR does as much or more but I guess your perception is affected by your needs which is understandable. Read the FAQ's if you want a complete list of features as there are a lot more than what I've listed.

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It doesnt have a touch screen...
...and that's a major selling point IMO. Touch screens always flake out down the road and render the device useless. Not to mention that you can actually use the Blackberry one-handed.

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it doesnt appear to have GPS built in
If that was a must-have feature then you should have purchased the 8703e and service from Sprint or any of the Nextel Blackberries. Did you do any research before making such a major purchase??

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Also, I think its absurd that the Pearl has GPS and the 8700g doesn't.
Why? I don't understand your reasoning. The Pearl's a newer model and it doesn't have GPS built-in. Again, you should have researched first by at least visiting blackberry.com. The 8800 will be the first full qwerty form factor Blackberry with GPS built-in.

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What do you mean by sync with the mac? I meant it doesn't work as a modem for the powerbook unless you buy the 3rd party software (unless there is something new I dont know about).
What you're referring to is "tethering". Most of us don't consider tethering and "work" to be the same thing.

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So far, I can view email and talk on instant messenger. Beyond that I would say I can do as much or more on my razr. What is the main reason why people buy the BB ? It doesnt have a touch screen, it doesnt have a camera, it doesnt appear to have GPS built in, it doesnt work with my Powerbook unless I pay $50 for third party software?
There is a freeware so you can sync your BB with your mac.

It does not have a touch screen because you can use the trackwheel and shortcuts.

It does not have a camera because it is for business professional and companies do not allow camera phones in the building.

It does not have a GPS unit built-in because it just does not. None of my other (and they are expensive) phones have GPS built-in.

Hm... may be you should consider to purchase a 8100 Pearl since it has a camera?

You mentioned your razr could do much or more than BB (please correct me if I read it incorrectly). However, it is depending on what you really need.

I need push mail and receive email from Gmail / Yahoo right the way and it is my sole reason purchasing a BB 8700g.
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Also, I think its absurd that the Pearl has GPS and the 8700g doesn't. Is it official that I wont be able to get turn by turn directions with my phone?
The Pearl came out after 8700g. I do not see it is absurd at all.

The model number means nothing. Did you think 8700g is a higher "model number" than 8100 so it should have a GPS in 8700g? However, 8100 does not even have a GPS chip built-in
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The fact that companies won't allow camera phones in buildings is a valid argument for why the 8700g doesn't have a camera... point taken. As far as the GPS, I think that if other phones have had it for a while, there is no reason why the 8700g shouldn't. Touch screens are personal preference I suppose. I don't view the 8700g as a higher model based on its number. However, as with BMWs , usually lower models receive the technology of the previous higher model. Therefore, I didn't see any reason why GPS tech should be all new in the pearl before the 8700g. I also don't see why the 8700g doesn't benifit from expansion slots. That is a basic feature that would enhance the phone. I suppose the true reason for a blackberry is for business professionals and that's why I am a little upset with its lack of features (that meet my usage requirements)
I am twenty five, and didn't want to walk around with a sidekick 2 (looks like a teenagers toy) so I figured the 8700g would be the solution. I guess I'll have to learn to live with it or wait until a professional looking phone will do what I want.

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You will probably need to wait for the 8800 model with a camera. Check out the link below.

BlackBerry 8800 - Indigo & Crimson - Features & Road Map | The Boy Genius Report

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Most of your comments - lack of GPS, trackwheel technology, no camera, no expansion slot - are all clearly documented in the device specifications.

Perhaps it is not the right device for you. Many professionals clearly find it appropriate. But it is not the right device for everyone.
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Send it back if you don't want it. T-Mobiles gives you 2 weeks (IIRC) to decide.
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Default I just switched from a RAZR...

to an 8700c. Even if I didn't have a data plan, I'd prefer the BB over the RAZR based on the calendar and address book functions. The full QWERTY keyboard makes calendar and address book entries a snap. It also lets me find the contacts I need in my address book effortlessly. The operation of the BB seems much more intuitive to me than the RAZR.

I personally couldn't care less about a VGA camera. I have an 8 mega pixel camera I use when I want to take a picture. <grin>

That's why I switched.

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I agree that I should wait till the indigo comes out. It seems that will be the "total package" for me. As a side note, I have a D100 that I use to take my pictures with. However, that doesnt mean I want to lug around a huge professional SLR everywhere. I am glad Rim agrees and is making all the appropriate changes to the Indigo. (GPS, Media capable, Expandable slots, Camera, etc.)

Looks like Ill be using my razr till the Indigo comes out,

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