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Old 02-15-2007, 03:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've had my T-Mo 8700g for almost a year now..have now given it to my wife who is using it with an O2 UK simcard with no data plan, so only for calls/sms. Theres now a Data Connection Refused message where the Carrier name should be and she wants to get rid of it and show the standard O2 name. Is there a way to completely disable all data connections from the 8700g going to T-Mobile? On turning the 8700g on it displays the O2 name but after a few seconds trying to establish some sort of data connection it comes up with the DCR message. Ive searched through here and have found that disabling Data Services in Network Options should work, but I dont have an option on the 8700g. Would deleting any IT policies work?

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Data connection refused is what displays when you do not have a data plan!
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Hi...yes I realise that and my wife's simcard is not data enabled. What I was asking was whether it was possible to DISABLE all data connections from the 8700 as there is now a pre-paid simcard in it? All she wants is the O2 name on the phone instead of a "Data connection Refused" message.
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Hi...yes I realise that and my wife's simcard is not data enabled. What I was asking was whether it was possible to DISABLE all data connections from the 8700 as there is now a pre-paid simcard in it? All she wants is the O2 name on the phone instead of a "Data connection Refused" message.
Not on the 8700... You could do this on the 8100 under Options >> Network....

When OS 4.2 is released for the 8700 is *might* be possible then
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ok thanks..however would deleting all IT policies on the 8700 disable all data connections to T-Mobile?
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If all IT are removed and you do not have a BIS plan in it's place then you will still get data connection refused.... The only way right now, is to have a BIS or BES account.... Maybe when 4.2 is released for the 8700 it will have the option that the 8100 has...
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Are you still with T-Mobile's BES? Or did you remove the addon for the 8700?
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The OP advised it was removed.... That's why he/she is getting data connection refused..............................
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The OP advised it was removed.... That's why he/she is getting data connection refused..............................
Yes that happened with O2 not T-mobile. Right?
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Point????

It does not matter... Not data (BIS or BES) plan on 8700 = *Data Connection Refused*

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It does not matter... Not data (BIS or BES) plan on 8700 = *Data Connection Refused*

If he said he remove the account. Them he should get the same message when puts his sim card in the bb. Unless he got another. But if the sim is not bb capabile, he may as well get her a different phone for the sim card and sell the 8700g.
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All I really want to know is what services/applications etc on the 8700 are trying to make a connection to the sever? The thing is that when I put a regular pre-paid sim card in the 8700 it does come up with the provider name for a few seconds BUT as soon as those arrows appear (showing that some app or service is tryin to connect to the server), then I get the DCR message instead of the regular provider name.

There must be a way of disabling ALL data services or attempts to connect to the server if one does not require the email capabilities.

Anyhow many many thanks for all that replied.
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But if the sim is not bb capabile, he may as well get her a different phone for the sim card and sell the 8700g.
???? *shrug* ????
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Well i've found my answer in the thread "deactivate push email"...by replacing the rim8700g.sfi file I now have an option to "disable data services" completely. No more DCR message on screen. Thanks to all.
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Do you have a link to that thread for us?
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I cant post links yet but it's on the main 8700 discussion screen titled "deactivate push e-mail"
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Apparently this will work on any recent OS that does not have the option for disabling Data Services. I believe OS 309 and 356 may already have this option in Options/Network, however with this "fix" it should work fine on any recent OS.
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Ok heres the thread:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...sh-e-mail.html

This part in particular applies posted by John Clark BBF Mod:

PLEASE REMEBER TO BACKUP ANY DATA FIRST

Delete the vendor.xml located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader.

Now, download this file:

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/1...s/rim8700g.sfi

and replace the one located here: c:\program files\common files\research in motion\shared\8700 v4.......\GPRS\

Then open Desktop Manager and it should prompt you to upgrade. This should give you the latest software with the ability to turn off your data in the network page.

Hope this helps others as its helped me.
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But if the sim is not bb capabile, he may as well get her a different phone for the sim card and sell the 8700g.
Why should he if his wife is happy with the 8700g? Plenty of people are happy with their Blackberries without a BB data plan. Her problem was with the Data Connection Refused message, not the 8700g itself.
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