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Old 02-19-2007, 08:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So in playing with the new 8800 I tried doing an OTA install of the gmail app from Gmail. I got a message saying "We're not sure if this will work on your device...but try it out!" When I start the app, I get an error message saying something to the effect of the timestamp on one of the codfiles is not the same as the child codfile?

Has anyone been able to get this to work on their 8800 yet?

As an alternative, if I were to try loading through the App Loader given the instructions in this thread:

New Gmail App and BB Application Loader!

should I choose the 8700 version (to match the screen size), or the 8100 version (to more closely match the OS)?

Any advice is welcome. I'm enjoying the 8800 very much so far...
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What is the purpose of installing the gmail app on the BB? Why not just check your gmail through the BB mail app?
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What is the purpose of installing the gmail app on the BB? Why not just check your gmail through the BB mail app?
I enjoy the gmail interface and thought it'd be cool to check out how they implemented it for mobiles, that's all. I have my BIS working just fine for my work email, and could set it up for gmail too...this is just more of a "nice to have".

Google Maps is throwing errors as well, though they are different than the Gmail errors outlined above.

We may just have to wait until Google puts out versions specific to the 8800...
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What is the purpose of installing the gmail app on the BB? Why not just check your gmail through the BB mail app?
I use both methods on my 8700C. The Gmail application does a very nice job of stripping off the extraneous html links that can make some emails difficult to read on the BB's native email viewer. The Gmail application also provides a easier way to delete or label messages as opposed to the traditional webpage view from the BB. I didn't think I would have much use for it when I installed it originally, but I find it rather useful.
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What is the purpose of installing the gmail app on the BB? Why not just check your gmail through the BB mail app?
If you have nothing of value to add to the thread and can't answer the OP's question please don't make posts like this. It is not constructive, and doesn'thelp the OP.

It's a legitimate question. Has anyone had success installing the GMail app on their 8800?
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If you have nothing of value to add to the thread and can't answer the OP's question please don't make posts like this. It is not constructive, and doesn'thelp the OP.

It's a legitimate question. Has anyone had success installing the GMail app on their 8800?
My question was also legitimate. Thanks to the other posts in this thread I have learned why someone would use the gmail app, I may well try it myself now.
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My question was also legitimate. Thanks to the other posts in this thread I have learned why someone would use the gmail app, I may well try it myself now.
Agreed, I think this is a legitimate question. I use BIS exclusively, but find a use for GMail App when I get messages with embedded html text that BB's native email viewer has complications with.
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No luck for me....well...it did install, but the icon is way smaller than all the others and I get errors when I try to run it.
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FWIW, it appears that Google doesn't recognize the 8800 when it presents itself to the server for file download and it gives a version that doesnt' work. In the case of Google Maps, I found that the 8700 version worked very well.

If you know the direct link to a 8700 version of the GMail application, I would try that.
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FWIW, it appears that Google doesn't recognize the 8800 when it presents itself to the server for file download and it gives a version that doesnt' work. In the case of Google Maps, I found that the 8700 version worked very well.

If you know the direct link to a 8700 version of the GMail application, I would try that.
On your advice I used the direct link to the 8700 COD files (and the example ALX file) from the thread I linked to above, and loaded them onto the 8800 via App Loader...

SUCCESS!

This is confirmed to work on my 8800, and the icon appears full size in the home screen, unlike the default OTA install (with errors).

Thanks to all who replied...
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Agreed, I think this is a legitimate question. I use BIS exclusively, but find a use for GMail App when I get messages with embedded html text that BB's native email viewer has complications with.
also once you mark a message read in gmail, you don't have to remark them as read on gmail.com.
with bb mail, even you read those mails, when you go to gmail.com those mails are not read, which is redundant to remark them read.
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I'm new to this site. Would someone please give me step by instructions on how to make gmail work on my 8800. I tried loading from gmail site and will not work. Also what is an app loader?

ps I read akgrown's reply but I do not quite understand.

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I'll try to summarize this a little better:

In order to get the Gmail app to work on the 8800, you need to use the version for the 8700 until there is a version released specifically for the 8800. In order to do this, I downloaded the two .cod files for the 8700, and then created a new text file called gm_8700_v4_0_en.alx which contains the ALX information that onelikeseabass outlined in the post I've quoted below.

Once you have downloaded the two .cod files and created the homemade ALX file (all in the same folder), connect your 8800, launch your Desktop Manager software and start the Application Loader. Through the Application Loader, you will select the gm_8700_v4_0_en.alx file and then continue through the steps to load it onto your 8800.

It's not as slick as an OTA download, but it's all we've got for now! Let me know if this explanation helps...

New Gmail App and BB Application Loader!

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http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.0.0/en/gm_8700_v4_0_en.cod
http://www.gmail.com/app/v1.0.0/en/g..._v4_0_en-1.cod

I'm also inserting an example .alx file for the 8700.
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<loader version="1.0">
<application id="8700 GMail 1.0.0">
<name >
8700 GMail 1.0.0
</name>
<description >
Access your GMail Account
</description>
<version >
1.0.0
</version>
<vendor >
Google
</vendor>
<copyright >
Copyright (c) 2006 Google
</copyright>
<fileset Java="1.18">
<directory >

</directory>
<files >
gm_8700_v4_0_en.cod
gm_8700_v4_0_en-1.cod

</files>

</fileset>

</application>

</loader>
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I'm on a BES for work and the Gmail app is great. I can use Gmail in a push capacity without getting it mixed in with my Exchange email. The Gmail app is quick and dirty and let's me use my BB for non-work stuff
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When I copy the text file or alx file in notepad and save it as the above name it also saves it as a txt file ext and app loader is looking for the alx type file.
What do I do about this?

denkaye

Also my loader says no information for your phone to load.

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I'm new to this site. Would someone please give me step by instructions on how to make gmail work on my 8800.
Greetings and Welcome to the Forum!

I have been using both Gmail and Yahoo mail on my BlackBerry's.

While I used to prefer Gmail prior to using it on my BB's I find that it's not as fast as Yahoo, in terms of it's push mail behavior.

Unless you absolutely must use Gmail (I have stopped using it on the BB) I would highly suggest Yahoo Mail Plus.

I find that Yahoo is very easy to setup with zero problems. It's really fast, stable and reliable. I have it setup on the four different models of BlackBerry's that I have and it's been very easy to setup and use on all four.

In addition, it has all the same features such as marking your mail read after you read it on your BB, and then go back to your PC is shows up as read there. Also if you decide to delete it on the BB after reading it, the same email is also deleted from your inbox and hence your PC.

So, in my personal experience I greatly prefer Yahoo and use it exclusively for my personal mail.

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Thanks for your info. I will look into yahoo but now getting gmail to work is a challenge I want to get done.

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When I copy the text file or alx file in notepad and save it as the above name it also saves it as a txt file ext and app loader is looking for the alx type file.
What do I do about this?

denkaye

Also my loader says no information for your phone to load.
You can either rename the existing file to .ALX (removing the .txt extension), or do another "Save As..." from notepad and make sure you save it as .ALX, with the 'File Type' setting to 'All Files'. That will prevent notepad from appending the .txt extension.
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OK - now I get it - it worked for me.

Maybe I'll try to explain it so others who are not that technical can do it.

Download both files linked above to your desktop by clicking on the links and selecting Save to Disk. Create a new folder called gmail and move the two files into the folder. Now open up Notepad and copy and paste the code in the box above. Select Save As and name it gm_8700_v4_0_en.alx and save it to the new gmail folder. Now run the Desktop Manager and click on Application Loader. Click Next, then Add... (upper right section of dialogue box). Navigate to the gmail folder and select the gm_8700_v4_0_en.alx file, then click Finish. Your BB will reboot and then you can start using Gmail. Much easier than it sounds.

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Old 02-21-2007, 02:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I did everything you said and my loader says no applications found for this device?

denkaye

To be specific it pops a warning block up and states" no additional applications designed for your device found."

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