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Old 02-27-2007, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been an avid 8700 user and absolutely love it. I watched the Pearl come online but I knew I was a QWERTY guy and didn't bite. I was anxious for the 8800 but my big reservation was no 3G. I ordered it online and got it last week. My reasons are simply cost versus gain. I'm not eligble for an upgrade, but I am eligible for a business discount. I ended up paying $386 from cingular online with no contract. After a week of using it, I did not think it was worth an almost $400 as an upgrade to my 8700. The GPS was cool. Video and music are cool. I got used to the trackball, but the wheel is great. The phone is top quality construction and the keyboard is great. The little bit of extra smallness is noticeable in the pocket. The rest of it for me was very very minor. I don't see any vast improvements over the 8700. If the 8800 was 3G, it would be a no brainer. I'm going to hold out for 3G.

I post this purely as one person's view - I think the 8800 is a great phone and if cost is no factor then go for it. For me and my budget, as much as I love upgrading things it seemed too steep a price to pay.
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Have you considered the 8707? It's slow as molasses, but it is 3G.
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Have you considered the 8707? It's slow as molasses, but it is 3G.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 8707 is only 2100MHz UMTS (Europe), while the US 3G market runs on 850/1900MHz. So if you are in the US, you are SOL.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 8707 is only 2100MHz UMTS (Europe), while the US 3G market runs on 850/1900MHz. So if you are in the US, you are SOL.
You are correct -- but I think a US-Centric 3G BB will also be as slow as molasses.
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The 3G BlackBerrys use a chipset made by Qualcom instead of the super fast Intels we've been enjoying in our 8700's and Pearls.

I've been using my 8800 for a month or so now and while I like it as an upgrade for the 8700, I think if I were forking out my own money I couldn't justify the price to myself for the size, trackball and GPS integration, but that's just my opinion. I get given devices by RIM so I can take it or leave it, but I share your concerns over the price of this device.
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As a Phone, PDA and email user, I do not think that 3G would do anything to enhance my BB experience.

For those who do the internet or use the BB for data I can see 3G being attractive.
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As long as RIM is insistent that the microSD is for 'funtime' only and therefore cannot support memory-based GPS maps, 3G should be very important to those who find GPS a very high priority. 3rd-party developers should support this as well.
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As long as RIM is insistent that the microSD is for 'funtime' only and therefore cannot support memory-based GPS maps, 3G should be very important to those who find GPS a very high priority. 3rd-party developers should support this as well.
Why? I don't understand why it matters if you have a 3G or a GPRS/EDGE device. GPS will work the same on either regardless.

You make a valid arguement on not using the MicroSD card for maps, but I actually prefer it that way. If I had a Tom Tom, Navman or other GPS system and wanted to update the maps I have to update the card, or plug my Sat Nav unit in to my PC and update it. The result is that I have yet another piece of kit to administer and maintain. With Telmap on the 8800 the maps are updated every couple of months, and becuase it's not stored on the device I don't have to update anything, everything is taken care of for me. I like that as it means I don't have to take the time to administer my kit.
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Why? I don't understand why it matters if you have a 3G or a GPRS/EDGE device. GPS will work the same on either regardless.

You make a valid arguement on not using the MicroSD card for maps, but I actually prefer it that way. If I had a Tom Tom, Navman or other GPS system and wanted to update the maps I have to update the card, or plug my Sat Nav unit in to my PC and update it. The result is that I have yet another piece of kit to administer and maintain. With Telmap on the 8800 the maps are updated every couple of months, and becuase it's not stored on the device I don't have to update anything, everything is taken care of for me. I like that as it means I don't have to take the time to administer my kit.
I just have a different preference. I've been updating my GPS maps for a couple years now and it's not a big deal to me. I'm also a bit averse to subscriptions that aren't absolutely required. There's also a fair cost-savings by maintaining my own maps vs a subscription. The point may come where I just don't want to do the update/upgrade thing anymore, or the price of subscription services like Telemap may become more reasonable. For now, I'm reliant upon a separate device for GPS.

There are some fantastic GPS mapping programs out there, but Blackberry is excluding itself from developing more utility from the device by closing off opportunity. I, for one, hope this changes fairly soon.
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