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Old 02-28-2007, 05:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

This is a great forum, and I am new here.

I've found answers to several doubts this far, but there are a couple things I'd really like to do that I haven't been able to figure out how.

I have a BB from work, where we use BES with Lotus Notes and everything works fine. My company allows me to browse the internet freely, so I have access to my Gmail.

At home, I use Microsoft Outlook, especially for the address book. I'd like to have all of these addresses on my BB as well. Is there any way I can have an independent Desktop Manager only configuration that just links with my Outlook without a personal BIS from the mobile provider? I just want to sync my outlook contacts and tasks with the BB, just like Intellisync does with a Palm.

I am also thinking of getting my mobile provider to give me a combined sim card for my work and personal phone. If I do that
1. Will I have an internet connection when I switch to my personal number?
2. Will my personal SMS messages get mixed up with the work SMS? Will I be able to backup these SMS onto my home desktop somehow?

I just want to avoid carrying 2 mobiles everywhere!
Hope somebody can give me a few pointers
Thanks in advance!

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Old 02-28-2007, 11:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Is there any way I can have an independent Desktop Manager only configuration that just links with my Outlook without a personal BIS from the mobile provider?
Yup. DM and BIS are set up separately. It's a little different with BES as you can't really avoid ending up with email with BES. However, with BIS, as long as you don't log into the BIS site and integrate email accounts you don't even have to use the email functionality.

The catch in your case is whether you're syncing your address book wirelessly with work. If you are, I don't know of a way to get this working for you. If not, you'll need to turn off wireless sync for the address book, set up DM at home with the internet/BIS install option and configure Intellisync to only sync the address book.

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I am also thinking of getting my mobile provider to give me a combined sim card for my work and personal phone. If I do that
1. Will I have an internet connection when I switch to my personal number?
2. Will my personal SMS messages get mixed up with the work SMS? Will I be able to backup these SMS onto my home desktop somehow?

I just want to avoid carrying 2 mobiles everywhere!
I'm not sure if this is possible without dual SIM's and such a setup isn't supported with the BB, IIRC. Do you use the same carrier as work and do you have free mobile-to-mobile? If so, you could always just forward. Your SMS messages won't get forwarded but I don't see a good solution for them via any approach. Do you really use SMS for work and personal use?

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Thanks for your reply Takeshi.

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However, with BIS, as long as you don't log into the BIS site and integrate email accounts you don't even have to use the email functionality.
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If not, you'll need to turn off wireless sync for the address book, set up DM at home with the internet/BIS install option and configure Intellisync to only sync the address book.
I haven't yet subscribed to a BIS. I was wondering if I could synchronize the address book with my personal Outlook contacts without ever configuring a BIS.
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I'm not sure if this is possible without dual SIM's and such a setup isn't supported with the BB, IIRC. Do you use the same carrier as work and do you have free mobile-to-mobile? If so, you could always just forward. Your SMS messages won't get forwarded but I don't see a good solution for them via any approach. Do you really use SMS for work and personal use?
I do use the same carrier at work and home, and they give me the option of using a single sim card with 2 different numbers. I use SMS only for personal use.... and once my phone memory is full (nokia), I backup the messages. I was hoping i'd be able to do the same with the BB. I understand from your answer that I cannot, especially not without a BIS.
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I haven't yet subscribed to a BIS. I was wondering if I could synchronize the address book with my personal Outlook contacts without ever configuring a BIS.
Sorry, I think I replied before I had my coffee. Yes, you can sync via USB without a data plan.

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I do use the same carrier at work and home, and they give me the option of using a single sim card with 2 different numbers. I use SMS only for personal use.... and once my phone memory is full (nokia), I backup the messages. I was hoping i'd be able to do the same with the BB. I understand from your answer that I cannot, especially not without a BIS.
It's really a matter of the device, IIRC. Don't quote me on this but I don't think the current BB's support dual numbers.
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