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Old 03-09-2007, 06:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone else think the built quality on the 8800 is poor? Squeezing the devices gives a really load creek.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Has anyone else think the built quality on the 8800 is poor? Squeezing the devices gives a really load creek.
You are right, it creaks alright. But build quality might be more than just creaking. Drop that thing on the pavement a few times and see if it holds up. Then well know.
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I'm disappointed that the advance hypsters didn't point this out. It's pretty widespread.
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Mine squeaks as well. I don't see what the fuss is though as I have no reason to squeeze the top left corner of my 8800 under normal use. I guess YMMV... I'm not really concerned as similar threads popped up all the time during the launch of the 8700. I know I've dropped my 8700 on concrete numerous times without any issues that weren't just cosmetic.

You can't usefully assess "build quality" by holding something in your hand.
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Well mine creaked/squeaked very badly right in the middle where you hold it on both sides. I exchanged it last night and the new one is much more solid.
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Wait until the new one breaks in. They all do and it will squeak again.
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you should read the threads on the first page :P
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I do feel the device is very sturdy. It is just the way the plastic meets plastic on the side panels. I don't think they will start falling off or anything.
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If you read the product reviews, the 8800 build quality is not nearly as good as one might hope. Build quality has been an issue since the 8100 and 8700 series, and the 8800 is no different. I use the 8703 and generally it's not as sturdy or solid as the 7200 series.
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The 950s had the best build qulity. Those things had such a sturdy plastic.
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Aside from the 'creaking', I've found that several keys do not respond to light pressing. I sometimes have to press the keys twice to get letter to appear. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Particularly with the 'o' and 'y' keys.
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Aside from the 'creaking', I've found that several keys do not respond to light pressing. I sometimes have to press the keys twice to get letter to appear. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Particularly with the 'o' and 'y' keys.
yup. I stated that in my thread.

My 5(D) key does that. When I'm typing fast, and I reread things, It'll miss that letter. Also when I type in phone numbers.

Here's an example, not that you need it:

can you o a favor for me and call on an tell him to eliver the box to me.

lol

or 515-955-2424

would look like this

192424
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Old 03-09-2007, 06:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I find the build quality of mine to be very good. Very little noise which I easily muted by the extremely careful application of a little WD-40. Now it's silent. I did this with my 8700 nearly 6 months ago, and it's still nice and quiet.

However one must remember that the engineers and designers have many challenges to face in making the thousands of decisions that go into a device like this. In this case they are building a device to a certain set of specifications, one of which is weight. Then there is the choice of materials. Plastic has many benefits which include light weight durability and some flex. It's unavoidable. Therefore the noises are also unavoidable, all they can do is try to keep them to a minimum.

There is a lot more packed into the newer devices as compared to the older ones. All you have to do is take a 7290 that's taken apart, place it alongside an 8700 that is also apart. There is quite a difference. I've seen it.

When I put my new 8800 side by side (assembled) with my 8700 they are both nicely built with a small advantage to the 8800 as the gaps are closer and more even. The 8800 also has a nicer overall finish.

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I do think there is some variation in build quality. This one I picked up last night is much much more solid on the sides, the keys, and the battery cover. It's not quite as rigid as a Motorola Q I have, but there's very little to complain about so far after a day.

I was very reluctant to exchange the first one. I was expecting them to all be like the first and was just going to return. But I decided to exchange at the last minute. The build quality on this is much higher no question. I doubt that it's a newer production lot, probably just unit to unit variation.
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I do think there is some variation in build quality. This one I picked up last night is much much more solid on the sides, the keys, and the battery cover. It's not quite as rigid as a Motorola Q I have, but there's very little to complain about so far after a day.

I was very reluctant to exchange the first one. I was expecting them to all be like the first and was just going to return. But I decided to exchange at the last minute. The build quality on this is much higher no question. I doubt that it's a newer production lot, probably just unit to unit variation.
Yes, I agree with your assessment of variation from unit to unit, as they build to plus/minus tolerances. Also, while these are kept quite close, it is the nature of plastics in which the fit is close to have a different "feel" when gripped as well as the resulting noise of two surfaces moving.

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