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Old 03-09-2007, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all,

Rogers replaced my phone today with an 8700 - my 7290 broke and I didn't want a junky loaner phone while it was being repaired, nor did I want to be without a BlackBerry for that amount of time.

I love the new phone, but have a couple of questions about the physical part of it

1) Using the plastic holster that comes with it, will it create damage like the old 7290 holster would? I really like the plastic holsters, but didn't like the damage that it caused on my old phone.

2) Does your keyboard move slightly side to side if you push a key to the side a bit?

That's it for now, granted I'll have more questions about this lovely new gadget!

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1) I do not know, as I have not used it.
2) Yes, but it does not get worse with time.

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Cool, thanks archer6. Anything else I should know about the physical part of the phone?

Anyone who's used the holster, some input would be helpful. Archer6, what do you use to carry the phone?
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Many people will tell you on here to get one of the OEM leather holsters, that has the magnet to put the BB device to sleep. I never liked the plastic piece of crap, but it has been improved, i am told, since I got mine... really its personal preference. Get a screen protector, order online from many vendors, I prefer ScreenPatronus, avail on Ebay or by googling them.

Keyboard is loose feeling on some. Lots of discussion on here about that when the 8700 first came out. Some recommended placing a thin business card between the battery and back cover.

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Toss the plastic holster that came with the 8700... It been tagged 'the launcher' for a reason!
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Thanks guys..

But... does the plastic holster scratch/blemish the 8700? Personally, I like the plastic one better than the OEM leather ones - I had one with my 7290 and 7230.
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Some posters on here have said it does scratch their case. But honestly, I have not used it more than one day.

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Cool, thanks archer6. Anything else I should know about the physical part of the phone? what do you use to carry the phone?
I have had my 8700c for nearly six months and it's a great model. Very well made, with a terrific display. As far as anything else about the physical part of the phone, there are no downsides at all. If you have a specific question please ask and I will respond.

Some people complain that the battery cover is a little loose. This is true, however it's a very slight amount, not a problem and I would rather have it this way than too difficult to remove. Especially since I swap my sim card frequently between the four BlackBerrys' I have.

As far as a case is concerned I really researched this one. I do not care to carry any phone on my belt. Yet I want to protect it, as I like to keep my things like new.

I purchased a very nice leather case (OEM) that lists for $29.95 from this reseller (see link below) for only $19.95. There are several features that I like. First is that it has the magnet which shuts off the display to conserve battery power when in the case. Also it triggers the (in case) profile which one can set preferences for.

Another great feature is this case does not have a belt clip on the back, it's nice and flat. However it's offered both ways and you can get the same one with a belt clip for the same price if that is your preference. The other feature is that the top flap that closes the case is a magnet, not velcro. Therefore it's silent and very long lasting. Finally it's made of very nice soft leather and is quite scratch resistant.

I prefer to carry my BB in my hand between the car and office. Or put it in an outside pocket of my briefcase. So a case without a clip is perfect for me.

On the weekends I just put it in the case and slip it in my pocket, as the case is very close fitting, and does not add to the bulk.

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My keyboard does not move side to side at all... it's really tight.

I used the plastic holster until I got my OEM leather one... and I hate it. The leather one is so much more secure and safe for the phone than the plastic crap. That thing scuffs and scratches like a mofo.
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I wouldn't waste money on another case. You're only gonna have the phone for a year anyway. The plastic swivel case is perfectly functional. I've been using them for 6 years with no issues. Far better than the crappy one that comes with the 7100 models.
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My preference is the nice BB leather case with the sleeper magnet (picked it up a week after getting my new 8703e). The plastic one did slightly scuff my 8700, and also my new 8703e....
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I've had the 8703 from Sprint for 4 months and have used the holdster it came with everyday and don't have one scratch on my phone (knock on wood). It also has the magnet on it.


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Hey all,

Rogers replaced my phone today with an 8700 - my 7290 broke and I didn't want a junky loaner phone while it was being repaired, nor did I want to be without a BlackBerry for that amount of time.

I love the new phone, but have a couple of questions about the physical part of it

1) Using the plastic holster that comes with it, will it create damage like the old 7290 holster would? I really like the plastic holsters, but didn't like the damage that it caused on my old phone.

2) Does your keyboard move slightly side to side if you push a key to the side a bit?

That's it for now, granted I'll have more questions about this lovely new gadget!

Thx in advance!
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I've had an 8700 for a month or so now. I'm not seeing any scratches from the OEM factory holster. Having said that, I still prefer the 7290 type plastic holster from which you don't need a pry bar to extract the handset.

My only two real complaints about the 8700 so far is the battery life is poor. Much worse than the 7290. I've had to get in the habit of charging the 8700 overnight every night. The battery won't make it through two days. And...

....the vibrator is too anemic to be of much use. Yes, it works if you're sitting still in a restaurant or other public place. But if you're moving at all, walking or whatever, forget it. There's no way the puny vibrator will get your attention. Also much worse than the 7290.

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I use the plastic case quite a bit. I have not noticed any scratching.
My keyboard moves a bit, but it is the same today as when I got it last fall.
I did use the OEM leather cases with my other Blackberry devices, and they are far more secure.
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I have had my 8700c for about 6 months now and had to take it out of the plastic holster to look it over to be able to answer this question. No scratches except those that I put there by dropping it in the street. I bought a leather case with my phone and used it first and the first time I got out of the car it launched the phone right out of the case (one of the street caused scratches). I prefer the plastic holster. I have found it perfectly adequate.

The battery door wiggles and the keyboard wiggles but neither is excessive or bothersome. I wouldn't brag on the battery life, but I don't have to charge it every day.

I hate the phone part of it. Worst sounding phone I ever heard. I have it for the e mail function.

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Again, thanks for the replies. By the looks of it, the plastic holster causes no damage, and I strongly prefer that one to leather cases (even if OEM).

Does anyone notice that the top (especially around the ringer) isn't very tight? When I lightly squeeze the front and back of the BlackBerry at the top, it creaks a bit. Any suggestions? This is the second 8700 I've seen that does that. Also, for the loose battery door, what's your best suggestion? So far, I like the technology in this phone better, but I think that the build of the 7290 was better.
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I've got an 8700c, that I bought it off ebay. Case was all scratched up, so I bought another dead 8700 on ebay, to replace the plastic case. No creaks or noise on this one at all... and I've used it for over 6 months with the OEM holder all the time and with zero scratches to the screen. Battery door is tight. Sometimes hard to get off actually.

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Well, I'm really not sure about this. Like I said, I've seen two 8700's, in which both have had loose tops. I have a T6 screwdriver, but it doesn't fit the screws properly to try to tighten them. I went to RadioShack and tried their T6, and same problem. It's actually bothering me, for a brand new phone.... I put a piece of a business card under the battery door, and that solved that. However, the loose top is still getting to me.

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Yah... I just grabbed my replacement 7290 from the cupboard and it's really tight. Any thoughts about the last post?
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well as for case not fitting together correctly you could contact Rogers again and tell them your not happy with the case of the new 8700 you received. See if they will replace it. Not much you can do beyond tightening down the screws, but you have a problem with the battery door too.

Replace the phone before it drives you crazy is my advice and what I'd do.
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