BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-31-2007, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Model: 8800
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 36
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cool WI-FI in bb8800

Please Login to Remove!

Hi All, I was reading some postings on why Carriers hate wi-fi? BB 880 and E-61 both initially had built in WI-FI but due to the pressure from North american carriers. Is that mean, If am able to purchase one from Europe would it be a WI-FI model? If you get a wi-fil built in model, you dont have to shell out so much data fee to these big companies like Singular, T-mo and Rogers.

Last edited by Mikepraba : 03-31-2007 at 11:06 PM.
Offline  
Old 03-31-2007, 11:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
Crimson Tide Moderator
 
JSanders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 7.0sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 41,907
Post Thanks: 60
Thanked 244 Times in 182 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted (8700g: BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

The current 8800 doesn't have WiFi, so until a BB model comes out with built-in WiFi, it is all a hypothetical question of what "carriers" or "careers" might offer with WiFi capability. So, hypothetically speaking, if you bought a WiFi BB in Europe and brought it to North America, it might work. But you'd still need a BB Data Plan to receive "push" email from the RIM network, hypothetically speaking.

Last edited by JSanders : 03-31-2007 at 11:04 PM.
Offline  
Old 04-02-2007, 01:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
takeshi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston
Model: 8310
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 7,741
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

8800 does not and will not have WiFi. An "8800 with WiFi" is an 8820. Blackberries with different features have different model numbers.

If your European carrier offers the 8820 it will have WiFi. If only the 8800 is offered it will not have WiFi.
Offline  
Old 04-02-2007, 07:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Model: 8220
Carrier: WiFi hotspot
Posts: 1,009
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikepraba
If you get a wi-fil built in model, you dont have to shell out so much data fee to these big companies like Singular, T-mo and Rogers.
I would not count on it.
Offline  
Old 04-05-2007, 01:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Canada
Model: 8800
Carrier: Evil Mr. Rogers
Posts: 206
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Berry One
I would not count on it.
why?
if the evil empire Ted Rogers built had a truly unlimited data plan (not 25 mb, and no, not 200 mb), like most American carriers, i wouldn't see the need for Wifi, as much.
i don't think the telcos have as much control as you might think by the way. the iPhone is coming, with built in wifi, and that will drive features as well.
Offline  
Old 04-06-2007, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Model: 8220
Carrier: WiFi hotspot
Posts: 1,009
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

WiFi is data transport. Just like GPRS. There are many GPRS phones out there but you still need blackberry data plan to use GPRS blackberry to full extent.

Did anyone (Rogers, T-Mo, Cingular, RIM) state that blackberry data plan will not be necessary for WiFi blackberry?
Offline  
Old 04-06-2007, 10:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
BlackBerry Extraordinaire
 
Perfect Storm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 2,467
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SchmutzBerry
why?
if the evil empire Ted Rogers built had a truly unlimited data plan (not 25 mb, and no, not 200 mb), like most American carriers, i wouldn't see the need for Wifi, as much.
i don't think the telcos have as much control as you might think by the way. the iPhone is coming, with built in wifi, and that will drive features as well.
You're joking right? Carriers decide what devices will reach the masses. They have a HUGE amount of control. If carriers don't want to carry a device due to it's features or any other factor, it doesn't see the light of day (aside from the minority who will bring it over unlocked) on their network.

Carriers are not adopting wifi devices because it cuts into their bottom line. With UMA/GAN implementations they can remedy this by still charging for usage over wifi. I can almost guarantee that RIM won't be releasing a device that doesn't make use of this. why? Because the carriers decide what they want. Not to mention that the push functionality would be useless on a non GAN device.

Finally, you can complain all you want about rogers but it aint gonna change. Yea, it sucks, I agree. But take a second to think that Canada is the second largest country in the world, but we've only got 1/10th the US population to fill it. There's no way rogers could provide as broad a coverage as they do and charge US level prices for service. They'd be out of business in a week! So before you jump on the ted rogers bashing bandwagon, consider that this country is not in the same situation as the US.
__________________
www.petermac.ca - Photo wallpapers only in BlackBerry Internet Browser
www.BBeXtras.com - Photo wallpapers sent to your BlackBerry
BlackBerry Themes

Last edited by Perfect Storm : 04-06-2007 at 12:56 PM.
Offline  
Old 04-06-2007, 11:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Guadalajara, Mexico
Model: 8800
Carrier: Telcel, Mexico
Posts: 7
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

If the 8800 initially was going to have wi-fi could it be possible to use uSD card for this? what about the drivers?

Vinny
Offline  
Old 04-06-2007, 11:36 AM   #9 (permalink)
Crimson Tide Moderator
 
JSanders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 7.0sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 41,907
Post Thanks: 60
Thanked 244 Times in 182 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jvloyola
If the 8800 initially was going to have wi-fi could it be possible to use uSD card for this? what about the drivers?

Vinny
Nope. However, you are always welcome to try it and see... You might lead the way in doing it.
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.