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Old 04-03-2007, 08:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This will seem like a stupid question to those knowledgeable in this area, but I am not.... the whole concept of unlocking a BB I understand, but I have a Verizon Wireless 8703e BB w/ no SIM.... first of all, can it be unlocked? And secondly, with no SIM, can I reprogram it for occasional travel to Europe for my company?....

On another note, I will have a Cingular 8800 soon too.... what are my options with it, if any?
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Only GSM devices can be unlocked. Nothing you can do for CDMA (Verizon) devices.
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Thanks for your quick response.... ok, getting smarter on this a little now - I think .... the Cingular 8800 that I will have soon is a GSM phone.... does that mean it will automatically work in Germany?.... (as long as I enable the International capability?....)
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And secondly, with no SIM, can I reprogram it for occasional travel to Europe for my company?....
It really depends on whether there's CDMA coverage in Germany or not (doubtful). AFAIK you have to rent a world phone from Verizon or work out another option if you want cell coverage in Germany. Verizon can confirm this for you. GSM World has info on coverage in Germany but it's probably all GSM info.
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The 8703e is weak outside of North America.

The 8800 will work very nicely (check roaming charges) with the International plan enabled..
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8800 should be unlocked first and you should at least get an internaltional package from Cingular. However a local SIM card would probably be much cheaper, especially on the voice end.

The 8703 CDMA device will not work in Europe. They are basically GSM, and T-Mobile-Germany is the primary carrier. That is why you need the 8800 unlocked, so it will work on the European T-Mo network with one of their SIM cards.

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Ok... am going to switch to the Cingular 8700c or 8800 tomorrow.... but if they are already GSM 850 900 1800 1900 capable, why would I need to unlock them?... Does Cingular not have coverage in that area and I would need to unlock it to use T-Mobile instead?....
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Sorry, forgot to mention, I travel to France, Germany & Lichtenstein for work often..... all typical European GSM network areas in case it makes a difference to the question I posed above.....
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You only need to unlock if you want to put another carrier's SIM card into the 8800. Not in your scenario.

Cingular has a web site where they show you which devices work in which countries...
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Thank you.... just checked Cingular's website... and the areas we travel all have different local carriers.... Liechtenstein & Germany mostly... but France, Brazil & Mexico too.... sounds like just using the roam feature will work best for a single solution for all my BB users..... thanks!
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....just noticed another little quirk about roaming though.... Cingular says "...You may not be able to place calls to international destinations other than United States while roaming in this country. Calls can be completed within the visited country and back to the United States...."

Is this pretty standard fare for roaming for most networks? Also, is the only way to get around this to grab a local carrier SIM in order to place calls locally in the visiting country?
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