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04-07-2007, 02:57 PM
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Does PIN messaging go through the BES or is it just on the carrier network? I have a personal BB 8800 connected to my companies BES and use BB Messenger to chat with buddies. Any chance of the BES capturing my chats?
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Does PIN messaging go through the BES or is it just on the carrier network? I have a personal BB 8800 connected to my companies BES and use BB Messenger to chat with buddies. Any chance of the BES capturing my chats? | PIN's go only through the carriers. They still work if your BES is running or not. So you have nothing to worry about! | | Offline
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04-07-2007, 04:06 PM
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| The BES does log everything. They can block PIN's from the device if they want to. That being said, I use my BBMessenger for chatting all the time. I just don't do anything on the BB that I wouldn't want them seeing--looking for jobs, etc. | | Offline
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04-07-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark The BES does log everything. They can block PIN's from the device if they want to. That being said, I use my BBMessenger for chatting all the time. I just don't do anything on the BB that I wouldn't want them seeing--looking for jobs, etc. | John, Thats good to know. Thanks for the heads up. Would the BES log txt messages as well?
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04-09-2007, 11:37 AM
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| Best practice is to assume that nothing on your BES-connected BB is private. | | Offline
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04-09-2007, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by takeshi Best practice is to assume that nothing on your BES-connected BB is private. | Did you guys hear about the cop that sent like 500 pages worth of messages or messages (regarding his infatuation with his fellow officer) to a fellow officer via his BB?
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04-09-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by brmcguire John, Thats good to know. Thanks for the heads up. Would the BES log txt messages as well? | If your BES admin is logging PIN messages, there's a very high liklihood that they are also logging SMS.
I agree with the post above mine (2 above mine). Assume nothing is private when your BB is on a BES. | | Offline
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04-09-2007, 12:41 PM
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| Does pin messaging count towards text messaging on plans? | | Offline
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04-09-2007, 01:07 PM
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06-03-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by John Clark The BES does log everything. They can block PIN's from the device if they want to. That being said, I use my BBMessenger for chatting all the time. I just don't do anything on the BB that I wouldn't want them seeing--looking for jobs, etc. | John - does the BES log emails sent / received via BIS?
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06-03-2007, 02:43 PM
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| Wow, this makes me want to NOT sign up for a hosted exchange service as I was planning to!
With hosted exchange, do I have the access to the controls that would give this kind of access to the settings and security of my Blackberry? | | Offline
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06-29-2007, 07:22 AM
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| No BES, but Cable Sync Given the privacy issues involved with joining a BES, can someone help me configure my device for cable syncing of calendar, notes, contacts, and tasks without being on the BES?
How do I install the Desktop software? What settings do I use to ensure that the BES admin cannot force the IT policy on my personal device? I have synced two sets of Outlook profiles before (calendars/tasks/contacts/notes) using cable sync on two different computers, and "categories", but I cannot remember how. I want to do that again. At the time I did it, I was not familiar with the total control the BES admin could exert over users who performed Enterprise Activation. If I don't do Enterprise Activation, and do not select the "join BES" option when installing Desktop redirector on the corporate machine, will I be safe from any IT Policy pushes? Will all the info on my Blackberry be private from the BES admins?
I know I won't be able to get corporate e-mail or wireless sync this way, but the privacy concerns are big enough that it is worth it for me.
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06-29-2007, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mzman Given the privacy issues involved with joining a BES, can someone help me configure my device for cable syncing of calendar, notes, contacts, and tasks without being on the BES?
How do I install the Desktop software? What settings do I use to ensure that the BES admin cannot force the IT policy on my personal device? I have synced two sets of Outlook profiles before (calendars/tasks/contacts/notes) using cable sync on two different computers, and "categories", but I cannot remember how. I want to do that again. At the time I did it, I was not familiar with the total control the BES admin could exert over users who performed Enterprise Activation. If I don't do Enterprise Activation, and do not select the "join BES" option when installing Desktop redirector on the corporate machine, will I be safe from any IT Policy pushes? Will all the info on my Blackberry be private from the BES admins?
I know I won't be able to get corporate e-mail or wireless sync this way, but the privacy concerns are big enough that it is worth it for me.
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06-29-2007, 09:06 AM
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| My friend has a BB with a company BES. Ability to send sms has been blocked, as well as PIN, he can get sms and PIN, but not send. Seems like a BES admin can make his BB a paper weight if they wanted to.
Like the above posts said, don't do anything on it that you wouldn't want your company to see, assume they can see everything. | | Offline
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06-29-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Outrigger Seems like a BES admin can make his BB a paper weight if they wanted to. | They can definitely send a remote kill/wipe. I don't recall exactly which it is so I don't know if it bricks the BB or just wipes the data off of it. | | Offline
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06-30-2007, 12:15 AM
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| Any word on whether I can access the security settings myself if using a hosted BES service? I don't think I want to use that type of service if those controls are in someone else's hands... | | Offline
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07-08-2007, 01:04 PM
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| When I go to my sent items folder, my pins don't appear. Even when I change my options to not hide sent items, I still don't see them. Any thoughts on where they are? Are pins not kept after I send them?
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