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Old 04-07-2007, 02:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does PIN messaging go through the BES or is it just on the carrier network? I have a personal BB 8800 connected to my companies BES and use BB Messenger to chat with buddies. Any chance of the BES capturing my chats?
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Old 04-07-2007, 03:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Does PIN messaging go through the BES or is it just on the carrier network? I have a personal BB 8800 connected to my companies BES and use BB Messenger to chat with buddies. Any chance of the BES capturing my chats?
PIN's go only through the carriers. They still work if your BES is running or not. So you have nothing to worry about!
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Old 04-07-2007, 04:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The BES does log everything. They can block PIN's from the device if they want to. That being said, I use my BBMessenger for chatting all the time. I just don't do anything on the BB that I wouldn't want them seeing--looking for jobs, etc.
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The BES does log everything. They can block PIN's from the device if they want to. That being said, I use my BBMessenger for chatting all the time. I just don't do anything on the BB that I wouldn't want them seeing--looking for jobs, etc.
John, Thats good to know. Thanks for the heads up. Would the BES log txt messages as well?
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Best practice is to assume that nothing on your BES-connected BB is private.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Best practice is to assume that nothing on your BES-connected BB is private.
Did you guys hear about the cop that sent like 500 pages worth of messages or messages (regarding his infatuation with his fellow officer) to a fellow officer via his BB?
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John, Thats good to know. Thanks for the heads up. Would the BES log txt messages as well?
If your BES admin is logging PIN messages, there's a very high liklihood that they are also logging SMS.
I agree with the post above mine (2 above mine). Assume nothing is private when your BB is on a BES.
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Does pin messaging count towards text messaging on plans?
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No PIN messaging does not it uses data not sms
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The BES does log everything. They can block PIN's from the device if they want to. That being said, I use my BBMessenger for chatting all the time. I just don't do anything on the BB that I wouldn't want them seeing--looking for jobs, etc.
John - does the BES log emails sent / received via BIS?
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Old 06-03-2007, 02:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Wow, this makes me want to NOT sign up for a hosted exchange service as I was planning to!

With hosted exchange, do I have the access to the controls that would give this kind of access to the settings and security of my Blackberry?
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Given the privacy issues involved with joining a BES, can someone help me configure my device for cable syncing of calendar, notes, contacts, and tasks without being on the BES?

How do I install the Desktop software? What settings do I use to ensure that the BES admin cannot force the IT policy on my personal device? I have synced two sets of Outlook profiles before (calendars/tasks/contacts/notes) using cable sync on two different computers, and "categories", but I cannot remember how. I want to do that again. At the time I did it, I was not familiar with the total control the BES admin could exert over users who performed Enterprise Activation. If I don't do Enterprise Activation, and do not select the "join BES" option when installing Desktop redirector on the corporate machine, will I be safe from any IT Policy pushes? Will all the info on my Blackberry be private from the BES admins?

I know I won't be able to get corporate e-mail or wireless sync this way, but the privacy concerns are big enough that it is worth it for me.

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Given the privacy issues involved with joining a BES, can someone help me configure my device for cable syncing of calendar, notes, contacts, and tasks without being on the BES?

How do I install the Desktop software? What settings do I use to ensure that the BES admin cannot force the IT policy on my personal device? I have synced two sets of Outlook profiles before (calendars/tasks/contacts/notes) using cable sync on two different computers, and "categories", but I cannot remember how. I want to do that again. At the time I did it, I was not familiar with the total control the BES admin could exert over users who performed Enterprise Activation. If I don't do Enterprise Activation, and do not select the "join BES" option when installing Desktop redirector on the corporate machine, will I be safe from any IT Policy pushes? Will all the info on my Blackberry be private from the BES admins?

I know I won't be able to get corporate e-mail or wireless sync this way, but the privacy concerns are big enough that it is worth it for me.

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You're threadjacking. Please start your own topic.
Your question has nothing to do with PIN Messaging.
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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My friend has a BB with a company BES. Ability to send sms has been blocked, as well as PIN, he can get sms and PIN, but not send. Seems like a BES admin can make his BB a paper weight if they wanted to.

Like the above posts said, don't do anything on it that you wouldn't want your company to see, assume they can see everything.
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Seems like a BES admin can make his BB a paper weight if they wanted to.
They can definitely send a remote kill/wipe. I don't recall exactly which it is so I don't know if it bricks the BB or just wipes the data off of it.
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Any word on whether I can access the security settings myself if using a hosted BES service? I don't think I want to use that type of service if those controls are in someone else's hands...
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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When I go to my sent items folder, my pins don't appear. Even when I change my options to not hide sent items, I still don't see them. Any thoughts on where they are? Are pins not kept after I send them?

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