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Old 04-08-2007, 06:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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just like the topic says. if Nextel doesn't release a newer BB, i think im gunna dump em and switch to sprint or verison.
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Greetings FalloutMan, and Welcome to the Forum!

The model you are asking about is an older model, and since you are thinking about switching to another carrier, I might offer the following ideas.

1.) If you choose either T-Mobile or Cingular, these two very good carriers that use the GSM world standard protocol. The phones and BlackBerry's they offer use a sim chip. This is a small removeable memory chip that contains your account information. Thus, later on if you decide to switch to another model of phone or BlackBerry you simply remove the sim card and place it into your new phone. It gives you a lot of choices of phones that way.

2.) By switching to one of these two companies, you will be entitled to a new BlackBerry at a discounted price, which will save you more than $100, and usually more on the price. Therefore you could have nice new model for a price that is hardly more than what you might pay for the other model, sometimes even less. Also the carrier you buy it from will support it long after it goes out of warranty.

3.) If you should find yourself in a position to travel to Europe, or other countries your BB will work their as well. Cingular in particular has the best coverage in other countries. I know, because I travel frequently and have Cingular. I have been very happy with the service.

Finally when changing to a new carrier, or service provider, the most important thing for you to identify is that you have coverage in the areas that are most important to you like at home, work and the places you travel to the most. So for example if T-Mobile has the best coverage in your area, then that is who you should use. They will show you the coverage maps, or you can go online to look them up. However I have found in real world use, that the maps are not very reliable. My suggestion would be to ask the people in the store, then choose a company and try it out. They all have policies that allow you to try the phone and return it if the coverage is not good for your area. After all, your BB is worthless without good coverage.

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yeah, i figured that cingular would be my winner. I just gotta wait until late november to get a plan with them, and i bet therell be somethin new from RIM that ill spend money on.
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If you are out of contract Sprint will offer you a good deal to move to a CDMA device. If you need international capability Sprint will have a CDMA/GSM device this summer as well. Additionally Sprint provides free PAM with a BB plan which provides great modem capability that Cingular's EDGE can't match.
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well, is a faster network worth their sluggish phone release? I was thinking of getting the Moto Q if i switched to sprint (and apparently, there is no penalty to switch from Nextel to Sprint while in a contract, just have to get new phones) and ive had good luck with sprintel replacing my broken phones with thei protection plan thing. their service si great, but phone selection is
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I was thinking of getting the Moto Q if i switched to sprint
I tried two Moto-Qs before I switched to BlackBerry. The Q experience was dreadful. After the first one had a lot of issues, I got a new replacment. Same thing. Windows Mobile has a long ways to go if one expects seemless reliability. The ones I had were prone to freezing, and other irratic behavior. When used for work, they were a complete waste of time.

It was not until after I made the switch to the BB that I found out what true speed, stability and reliability are. I could not be happier.

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hmm, now that you said that, ive been finding bad stuff about the Q. I think ill just buy an i580 and wait until november, when il switch to Cingular and pick up the latest BB, although I dunno if i'm sold on the 8800s keyboard, i prefer the keyboards with a little space between the buttons.
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well, is a faster network worth their sluggish phone release? I was thinking of getting the Moto Q if i switched to sprint (and apparently, there is no penalty to switch from Nextel to Sprint while in a contract, just have to get new phones) and ive had good luck with sprintel replacing my broken phones with thei protection plan thing. their service si great, but phone selection is

I have a Moto Q now under the Sprint SERO plan. Actually I have the Q in at the Motorola Factory for repairs because starting 3/28 it begin rebooting in a continous cycle.

The Moto Q is great for running different Windows Mobile apps (I use the Sirius and XM players for free) as well as tethering via PDANET for fast EVDO data access.

On the downside, the phone is so-so as an email device. There's no magnet to automatically turn off the screen so you have to lock it every time you holster it. The keys take a lot of work getting used to. The problem with the Q is really the stability. I use mine as a backup to my Blackberry 8800. I do not think I could ever use it as my main phone/email device.
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if you are remotely interested in t mob i have heard great things about the dash i have not used one myself (i use bb) but i manage cells, pdas, and pda phones and the dash is pretty good as far as i can tell, I would check it out first to see if you like it...
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I have a lot of Q's in the field at my office. We used to use BB's then switched to Q's. There have been a lot of complaints from the people that switched to them. I stayed on my BB. The Q's are just too unreliable in my opinion. I know the downside on the BB for a lot of people was having a BES. They didn't want to spend the money on it. When they already had exchange in place. I tried to tell them that you could get your email via OWA on the BB. =)
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the original question was about the 7100i... to answer your question fall out boy, yeah, the 7100i is still a more than capable blackberry! It IS one of their older technology phones, but if you get the updated OS with the dimension themes, you'll be absolutely fine! There is alot of talk on here about different BB's and Q's and whatnot, but if you're locked in a contract with Nextel until November, I would make the switch. Get into a Blackberry to see if you even like it or need it.
I know a fair number of people who have gotten treo's and Q's only to tell me they didn't really need all of the functions of one of these type phones, that a flip phone would suffice. You didn't say in your original post if you are a corporate user with the need for reliable e-mail delivery or are just going to use it for your aol account... the Blackberry is for those users who need e-mails delivered!
So, now that I've rambled on, to answer your original question, knowing that you are locked into Nextel until Nov, yes the 7100i is still a decent phone!!

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well, im not corporate, but i do want email through my Gmail account (anyone want an invte?). I've been looking at teh Moto i580 the last week. I get a camera, smaller screen, no keyboard, and MicroSD in what appears to be a smaller package. Im a big texter, so i really dunno what to get at this point. I'm leaning towards the i580 since it seems the 7100i is lacking on multimedia. the nice thing is that I can DL the GMail app onto an i580 and get a instant mail thing. Also, for 10 a month extra, i can get unlimited data plan for phones, but ive heard you have to get the BB specific plan for a BB to connect. I dont think im wiling to shell out the 40 to get something i can get for 10 on a regular flip :/ i think ill wait until i go with Cingular and get teh most updated BB out and a BB unlimited.
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so, can the 7520 text? i really like my friends 7250, and they are the same ergos, which feel really nice. if I cna do everything on teh 7520 that a 7100i can, then thatll be my winner.
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so, can the 7520 text? i really like my friends 7250, and they are the same ergos, which feel really nice. if I cna do everything on teh 7520 that a 7100i can, then thatll be my winner.
As far as deciding between which BB model vs: another brand/type of phone, I have a few thoughts to share with you.

For years I used regular cell phones, upgrading about every 10-12 months just for the fun of it and because I'm an early adopter. So along these lines when the "smartphone" category emerged with Treos' I just had to try one. Mainly because I was using a PDA for my schedule and a Laptop for my work, as well as a regular cell phone of course. Too many things to carry around! Well the Treo thing was just too frustrating for me as the OS was slow and it would freeze once in a while. So I then got a Moto-Q, not much better. Then finally I got a BB.

Well that changed everything in a very positive way. There is no way to explain this in a meaningful way other than to encourage you to stick with your plan to get one. You can always get rid of it if you do not like it, but I really think you will love it. For me it's changed not only how I communicate personally and professionally. But it's made staying on contact (the way I want) truly fun and easy. It has made a big impact on my lifestyle.

As far as which model is good for you, I like them all, there is not a single one that is "terrible" just some are better than others and the most important part is the time you spend to select the BB that has the features you NEED first, and WANT second. That way it will work as well for you as it has for me. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with the older models, there are some VERY _distinct benefits_ of the newer models beginning with the 8700c from Cingular, such as:

1) Terrific Color Display, with light sensing technology.
Larger display size & resolution: at 320 x 240 vs: 240x160
2) Better Much Better Internet Experience because of EDGE
3) Better Battery life and Faster OS, and Multitasking experience
4) Low prices since they are subsidized.
5) The most features, the best texting, email and pin messaging.
6) MUCH better phone quality, clarity and reception than the 7520.
7) Great BlueTooth performance
8) 64mb memory compared to 32mb on 7520
9) EDGE, as well as GPS for faster connectivity and Internet ( a huge advantage)

Finally don't get me wrong I LOVE the 7290, it had the very best of all BB keyboards, and yet it was very big, bulky, had a very poor phone, and a dim low resolution screen compared to todays models. I have a friend with a 7520 and it's a good BB, just not a Terrific! BB. Same keyboard as the 7290 but again, the smaller screen, lower resolution and overall nothing like the newer models.

If I were to suggest a BB for you, now knowing what your general criterion is, I would highly suggest an 8700c from Cingular. Great service and support, as well as very good pricing. Currently a new 8700c is just $199. They also offer refurbished which I would suggest that you _avoid_.

I have an 8700c and it's terrific.
With one of the very best (in my opinion) OS's, and ability to use the latest desktop manager. The display is stellar, the build quality is one of the best. It's even better than my newer 8800. It has great battery life and durability.

I just had another thought to share, lots of people on the forum report poor, to bad phone performance from the 8700. I would like to clarify this as I have a close friend that is quite high up in the RIM organization. This is a model that has been out for quite some time. During which they have continually worked to achieve better phone performance and they have achieved that goal my "newest" 8700c is just 4 months old and the is a remarkable difference in the phone quality compared to my original and those of my friends whose 8700c are a two years old.

I would like to see you have a very enjoyable BlackBerry experience and I think the 8700c would be the ideal model for you. (just my opinion based on personal experience).

Hopefully you will find this information beneficial.

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well, if i could switch to cingular now, i would, but im not 18 yet :/ so they cant sign me on a contract unless im co-signed, which my dad wont let me do since Nextel would screw us on an early penalty. I thought of telling Nextel that if they tried to charge me, id stand in front of their booth at the mall and tell people how much of a piece of shit Nextel quality is. between the "wait so we can find your received caller" and the system errors when trying to dial out and lack of decent phones for a decent price, I think what i would say is justifiable. when i dont get hammered with errors, the service is ok, and they have never tried to screw me on the phone protection plan. I gotta give em props for that, since it seems plcaes like Best Buy sell you a warranty then tell you that it covers everything, then back out on you is bullshit that I seem to attract. I think I might get my dad to dump Nextel early and switch to Cingular since noone i know deals with the crap i have to.
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well, if i could switch to cingular now, i would, but im not 18 yet :/ so they cant sign me on a contract unless im co-signed, which my dad wont let me do since Nextel would screw us on an early penalty. .
How much longer do you have to wait before your Nextel contract expires?

And by the way I would like to compliment you on your good communications here, I would have never guessed you are about to be 18. Nice work!

Believe it or not, I'm only 12 but I'm big for my age.....LOL.....nothing like some good humor! I'm between 51 and 52... like prehistoric......
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Charisma is my strong point, and I usually come off as a 30 year old corporate suit. Lets see, we got Nextel lsat year in August, so I have another year and change. So, if I talk my mom and step-dad into Cingular, I could drop off my dad's family plan and tell my step-dad that I'd pay him the extra for a 3rd line ($10) and whatever a data plan costs. Another question, can I get the normal data plan, or do I have to get a BB specific data plan? I want internet, MMS, and SMS. No need for the enterprise server thing since I would DL GMail's email Java app onto the phone and use that, which requires just a normal data plan for internet access.
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Well, good news! I just got off a chat with a Sprint helper person (rep maybe?) that said I can switch to Sprint, get the discounts, and not get a fee! So, I'm looking forward to becoming a BB owner!! Now, I just need to wait and see if Sprint gets the 8830 that people are talking about in hte Rumor Mill.
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So, if I talk my mom and step-dad into Cingular, I could drop off my dad's family plan and tell my step-dad that I'd pay him the extra for a 3rd line ($10) and whatever a data plan costs. Another question, can I get the normal data plan, or do I have to get a BB specific data plan? I want internet, MMS, and SMS. No need for the enterprise server thing since I would DL GMail's email Java app onto the phone and use that, which requires just a normal data plan for internet access.
Yes you must have a BlackBerry BIS plan and unlimited is the only way to go.
With Sprint, or T-Mobile, or Cingular, they all require a Personal BIS unlimited BlackBerry plan. The only drawback is that Sprint is the most expensive. I just checked only and they are $39 per month. Cingular is $29 per month.
So they end up being the most expensive. T-Mobile is 2nd place, then Cingular which is the least expensive. It's what I use.
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I saw the price comparison... This makes me lean toward the MotoQ because I can get the unlimited data pack for $20. Email isnt an issue since I cna use the browser, and I figured that I have 30 days to see if the Q is as bad as you guys make it out to be :D if texting, talking, and surfing makes this crash, ill give it back and get a BB. Cant wait to switch though! I'm supposed to go to the Sprint store the weekend after next with my dad to discuss switching.
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