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Old 04-09-2007, 11:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Not sure if this has been posted or not but interesting to watch. What the girl does not compare is battery life, crashing (lack thereof), etc.

The BlackBerry 8800 Takes a Beat Down From The BlackJack | RIMarkable | The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My friend has been referencing this review. Funny they left out the battery life as all of those capabilities are not nearly as enticing when you know it is seriously draining your battery.
I am done with WM devices. Period. I have fallen for the promises too many times.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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leave it to Cnet to give users a microsoft bias review... I guess when you pay a review site well, your products always get 5 stars!
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I have a real life comparison. Traveled to Lake Sinclair(SE of atlanta) to stay with a buddy last week so I took my 8800 and bjack thinking it would be nice to switch ino once I got there. The bj is supposed to have good reception; however I couldn't get a signal inside or outside the house. My 8800 would get one bar in the house and two outside and would make and hold a call on one bar. But one advantage of the bj was that it didn't take up much space in my bag with that nice form factor.
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I had the blackjack for a week. The form factor was ok but I had people repeatedly tell me it looks like a calculator. The matt black finish wasnt the most sexy looking. Random slow downs, one or two crashes, horrendous battery life all caused me to return to a bb. Most importantly, WM devices in general dont allow flexible text manipulation. You cant cut and paste from anywhere on every screen like you can on a BB. That being said, the xm radio and other things worked as promised.
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I traded my 8800 for a BlackJack after one week. Went back to my 8700 for email and now use the BJ for everything else. It kills the 8800 on everything except email. I have the newer BJ with the hi-cap battery so my battery life is every bit as good as a bb. The BlackJack is an excellent device for the rest of the world outside of the very biased, brainwashed that only bb's are good, blackberry forum obsessed world.
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I traded my 8800 for a BlackJack after one week. Went back to my 8700 for email and now use the BJ for everything else. It kills the 8800 on everything except email. I have the newer BJ with the hi-cap battery so my battery life is every bit as good as a bb. The BlackJack is an excellent device for the rest of the world outside of the very biased, brainwashed that only bb's are good, blackberry forum obsessed world.
Really? How about something really basic? Could you copy a phone number from your call log and put it in your memopad?
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I traded my 8800 for a BlackJack after one week. Went back to my 8700 for email and now use the BJ for everything else. It kills the 8800 on everything except email. I have the newer BJ with the hi-cap battery so my battery life is every bit as good as a bb. The BlackJack is an excellent device for the rest of the world outside of the very biased, brainwashed that only bb's are good, blackberry forum obsessed world.
Your location lends itself to such objectivity regarding the blackjack.
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Really? How about something really basic? Could you copy a phone number from your call log and put it in your memopad?
I wouldn't want to......I save all contact info in uh, er...contacts.

What I can do with Facade is completely customize the home screen to show whatever I want. Task, calendar, program launcher. What I want and where I want it.
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Most reviews like this are pretty worthless IMO. You can't get an accurate idea of the important matters simply by playing with a device for 10 minutes. The truly useful info comes from day-to-day use and dealing with the issues of the device in question.
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Most reviews like this are pretty worthless IMO. You can't get an accurate idea of the important matters simply by playing with a device for 10 minutes. The truly useful info comes from day-to-day use and dealing with the issues of the device in question.
I would agree with that. I happen to like the BlackJack for everything but email and I like my 8700c more than the 8800 for email. All just my opinion and you know what they say about those!!
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I traded my 8800 for a BlackJack after one week. Went back to my 8700 for email and now use the BJ for everything else. It kills the 8800 on everything except email. I have the newer BJ with the hi-cap battery so my battery life is every bit as good as a bb. The BlackJack is an excellent device for the rest of the world outside of the very biased, brainwashed that only bb's are good, blackberry forum obsessed world.
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A few other items that the review did not even talk about. Email and full BES Sync.

I know that I have had it with Active Sync and all the others. I had my BB connected to BES and all appointments, tasks, contacts, calendar items etc. sync wirelessly. All I do is charge my BB and it is always ready to go. I have not had to reboot it and my email is always in my hand.

How it plays a movie is silly - I have a video iPod if I want that or how it handles MP3's. Great if you are at the bar trying to impress someone, but I need my contacts, email and phone always and the reception on my BB is great. This is how I make money, the other features are things my kids like to do such as - to take pictures of each other, play a youtube video, or listen to a new ring tone. Mine is set on vibrate always.

So for a consumer device that you just need your friends to give you a call now and then and same with email then something like the BJ is good, but if you want to do business, then the BB is the only game in town for me.

By the way how old was this young lady that did the review - 18?

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A few other items that the review did not even talk about. Email and full BES Sync.

I know that I have had it with Active Sync and all the others. I had my BB connected to BES and all appointments, tasks, contacts, calendar items etc. sync wirelessly. All I do is charge my BB and it is always ready to go. I have not had to reboot it and my email is always in my hand.

How it plays a movie is silly - I have a video iPod if I want that or how it handles MP3's. Great if you are at the bar trying to impress someone, but I need my contacts, email and phone always and the reception on my BB is great. This is how I make money, the other features are things my kids like to do such as - to take pictures of each other, play a youtube video, or listen to a new ring tone. Mine is set on vibrate always.

So for a consumer device that you just need your friends to give you a call now and then and same with email then something like the BJ is good, but if you want to do business, then the BB is the only game in town for me.
another example of why they say what they say about opinions. Everyone certainly has one.
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another example of why they say what they say about opinions. Everyone certainly has one.
So gadgetfanatic are you on here just to flame BB users?
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No flaming going on here.

Do you disagree with my comment about the quoted post being an opinion?

and btw, I am a bb user.
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My main problem with the Blackjack is the fact that when I type quickly it skips characters. That makes it only marginally useful as a messaging device.

Don't have that problem with any Blackberry, or a Nokia E70, E61, or for that matter a HTC Tytn.

On the other hand, the Blackjack is a nice multimedia device and it does have 3G which is very nice for tethering. Still, the BB clearly wins for anything that requires a lot of text input (Email/IM, etc.)

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another example of why they say what they say about opinions. Everyone certainly has one.
...just piling on the credibility..
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Well everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I know the windows mobile well. it's very very powerful. but everything takes much longer to do on it, and you have to suffer frequent crashes.
so the specs looks good, but in real world usage, people end up loving their blackberry more often. most people.
but i can see how on an initial glance, the bj looks attractive.
it's the same thing as windows vs. mac. initially they look the same. pretty much. maybe the specs on windows machines are even better. but, the built in os x architecture, and the human interface of the mac, just blows windows away. and way you have all these mac fantatics. of course, some people like the windows interface better. or the wm5 interface better.
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No flaming going on here.

Do you disagree with my comment about the quoted post being an opinion?

and btw, I am a bb user.

Sorry misunderstood your post.

Parital opinion (video, mp3, ringtones)

Paritial experience on syncing devices.

I am a big windows fan and have owned many win moble devices and even palm. None with the great sync and email experience that I have with my BB and BES.

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