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Old 06-09-2007, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been using the 8703 and other previous BB-s with no issues. I just got the 8830 and can not stand the blue lighted keypad ... it is actually bothering my eyes and I can not see letters very easy. Is there any way to change the key-pad to a black/white one similar to the one on the 8703 or similar to the one in Curve. If there is no solution I may return the 8830 - it just doesnt work for me. Try it at home or in the store ....

Other than that - love the device.
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Old 06-09-2007, 12:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it doesn't bother my eyes, but depending what kind of lighting you have around you, the combo of the blue with ambient light reflecting off the silver keys can make the letters impossible to see...
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's just a shame, because everything else is dead on! I'm trying to get used to it.
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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sitting in my office and typing and email or browsing - using the keyboard is impossible. pls before you buy go and check it at you local vz store and make sure the keypad light is on and see if you find it useful.

how does one design and approve such a keypad .... it is unbeliveable!!!!

keyboard is the ky interface with the unit ... i love everything else - the feel and functionality but this is a killer. media center is kid of slow also but i can deal with that.

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Old 06-09-2007, 02:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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THAT'S WHY MY 8830 WHEN BACK!! THE BLUE KEY PAD LIGHT & SILVER COLOR KEY PAD SUXS!! I'M BACK TO MY 8703e UNTIL SOMETHING ELSE ARRIVES.

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Old 06-09-2007, 04:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i agree with you ... i am returning mine today ... as much as i tried to get used to the keypad - i just cant see the letters and hate moving the phone around to properly see the keys ... not a way to use a key device for my business.

ciao 8830 .. nice to look at but bad design .... back to 8703e ...

SAVE YOUR MONEY - DONT GET THE 8830 - and give VZ and RIM a message on design. I am sure if I use this phone in Europe it would be very very expensive anyway. Maybe I will give Sprint a chance when they come up with the 88xx next week.
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I agree also, the keyboard with the blue backlight on just makes the keyboard hard to read the letters. Does anyone know if it is possible to disable the backlight? The dark letters are actually easier to read in my opinion.
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I do like my 8830, but the keyboard is the weakest link. Fortunately I do more reading of emails than I do typing.
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Old 06-09-2007, 05:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Do you people really look at the keyboard all that much?

Maybe it's because I've been using a PDA phone for many years because I rarely look at the keyboard after 3-4 days with a new device.

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Old 06-09-2007, 07:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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of course we look at the key board and use it .. there is a reason why it is there. the real question is why would RIM design such a keyboard? How does it pass their approval processes????

back on the 8703e and using a normally designed device -
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Um, have y'all never typed on a phone or keyboard before? It should not be that hard to type without seeing the keys individidually. This written by a 8830 phone. Come on.

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Old 06-09-2007, 08:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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that is not the point ... the point is if you look at it you can see a thing ... WHY IS THAT????

Unlocked Verizon Blackberry 8300 (Curve) Quadband GSM World Phone On Sale Buy

Look at the design of the 8300 curve for Verizon ..that looks like a normal keyboard.
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Old 06-09-2007, 08:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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8820 coming to verizon with WiFi support .... thats cool
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I'm enjoying my 8830 so far, I've kind of gottin use to the blue keypad after a day of heavy use! I'm also familiar with the keyboard layout, because of using the 8800 since February. However they did drop the ball on this one!
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of course we look at the key board and use it .. there is a reason why it is there. the real question is why would RIM design such a keyboard? How does it pass their approval processes????

back on the 8703e and using a normally designed device -
Wow...sorry, I really don't know anyone who actually looks at it anymore. I would never be able to TXT/Email while I drive if I had to actually look.

Anyway, do those of you that need to look at the BB keyboard...do you also need to look at your PC's keyboard? I'm just curious at this point.

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I'm by far not a typing expert, so YES i have to look at the keyboard........... sorry i'm not as proficient as others............

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...do you also need to look at your PC's keyboard? ...
Come on. That's a horrible argument in support of a poor design. Are the keys on your PC's keyboard blank? Let's call a spade a spade here: RIM dropped the ball on this particular design point to the degree that it makes the device unusable to a sub-section of the BlackBerry community. I can just picture handing one of these to an executive who's not tech savy ...
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that blue light is horrible on the keyboard. worst design flaw of this device
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Come on. That's a horrible argument in support of a poor design. Are the keys on your PC's keyboard blank? Let's call a spade a spade here: RIM dropped the ball on this particular design point to the degree that it makes the device unusable to a sub-section of the BlackBerry community. I can just picture handing one of these to an executive who's not tech savy ...
mark you make an excellent point .... if vzw and rim think that they will get wide acceptance by firms with the current keyboard they are in for a big surprise .... i think this will cost them tons and tons.

i dont care how much you know the keyboard layout - which i know very well btw and i also im/email while i ride it just doesnt make sense. i see this as if ford built a car with no labels on the dashboard or very poorly visible labels .... just plain stupid.

imagine having a keyboard that you cant really read ... but need to move your head around if you want to type a letter because you cant really see it -

i am just glad i am back on my 8703e
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