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Old 07-18-2007, 10:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

I have a few questions regarding the 8830.

1. Is it possible to tell my BlackBerry to not automatically download emails? I want it to download emails only when I tell it too.

2. What is a reasonable amount of bandwidth for email? Right now I get about 50 emails a day - 35 - 40 being spam.

3. Does my BlackBerry download the entire email when received or does it download as I scroll down the email?

4. I hear BlackBerry;s have a compression method so it will compress data being downloaded. This means a 20KB email will actually be downloaded at like 6KB. Is this true?

5. I'm going to be going with Telus for my 8830. The said their plan comes with 4MB/month bandwidth. Is this in bytes or bits?

6. Does BlackBerry offer some type of spam filter? If I get so many spam a day, I wan't my BlackBerry to not download them. Is there a Spam Filter to lower bandwidth?
Thanks in advance for your help!

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Old 07-18-2007, 11:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello,

I have a few questions regarding the 8830.

1. Is it possible to tell my BlackBerry to not automatically download emails? I want it to download emails only when I tell it too.
Yes, you can turn off Data services, but you lose all data (including internet) while it is off. The BB is not really designed to work this way. You can tell your BB not to alert you to the new mail.

2. What is a reasonable amount of bandwidth for email? Right now I get about 50 emails a day - 35 - 40 being spam.
Any answer would be a guess or rough estimate. BBs only capture the headers of an email until you open or ask for more of the mail. So if you want to estimate 1kb per email (which is probably high) you can do the math from there.

3. Does my BlackBerry download the entire email when received or does it download as I scroll down the email?
see above

4. I hear BlackBerry;s have a compression method so it will compress data being downloaded. This means a 20KB email will actually be downloaded at like 6KB. Is this true?
Never heard that, but hey, your source could be in the know. I sure am not.

5. I'm going to be going with Telus for my 8830. The said their plan comes with 4MB/month bandwidth. Is this in bytes or bits?
Good quesiton--I believe the "B" in megabytes, stands for bytes.

6. Does BlackBerry offer some type of spam filter? If I get so many spam a day, I wan't my BlackBerry to not download them. Is there a Spam Filter to lower bandwidth?
No, RIM does not block mail for any reason, that is up to you at your mailserver before RIM touches it. Put your own spam filters in place and you control how narrow or wide the spam net is.
Thanks in advance for your help!

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Thank you for your reply.

I just signed up for SpamCop.net's email filter service. I'm going to see if this helps eliminate most of the spam. It will do it server side so that my BlackBerry will not need to download the spam.

I hope the "B" stands for bytes because there are 8 bits in a byte so if they are talking about megabits then I'm going to be getting 1/8 of the bandwidth mentioned ;)

I will have to look into the bandwidth thing. I think it might have been the manager at Telus that I was talking to who said he has that compression method.

Thanks again for your reply!
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an alternative would be to forward your email account to a gmail account. Google is excellent at removing spam from real mails.
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That's true. I could also then set the reply email address to my main address so it would hide the gmail account. It would be free as well ;)
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I will have to look into the bandwidth thing. I think it might have been the manager at Telus that I was talking to who said he has that compression method.
Just don't waste too much time on it.
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Just don't waste too much time on it.
In reference to your question about Megabytes vs. Megabits. If the b is lower case, it bits. If the B is uppercase, it's bytes. Memory and hard drives are rated in bytes and band width is generally rated in bits.
Hope this helps.
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I just called Telus and they said it was bytes.
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

You are trying to nickel and dime data usage. Personally between internet and email I use 12 mb a month.
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an alternative would be to forward your email account to a gmail account. Google is excellent at removing spam from real mails.
Problem is that when you setup a forward from Gmail to your BB, the filters don't work anymore, so you have to pop it from the BB to get SPAM filters. Don't ask me how I know...
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