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Old 05-24-2005, 07:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Treo, as much as I love it, is always freezing on me. I'd love to try the BB 7290 out. Is this the wrong move? I wouldn't miss the camera or the MP3.
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Depends on your needs; if you have a ton of Palm programs and databases, and that is very important to you, then the switch will be very painful. You are trading third party applications for stability and security (I had a Treo 600 and hated it).

The specialty of the BB is the wireless e-mail. It's a decent phone and the browser is OK. There are more third party apps than before (and games) but not near the thousands of free Palm titles.

If you want great wireless e-mail, a functional, if not fancy PIM and a good phone, then you will not be disappointed.
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi,

I have been talking with an Earthlink rep about getting a Treo 650 or a BB 7250 for a little over a week now.

She has had a demo 650 for a few a couple weeks...

She says the device randomly reboots for no reason, the keyboard is harder to use than the BB, and she likes how the BB "pushes email".

She also says that for internet only device, the blackberry would be the better choice to make. For voice and data, the Treo may be right for you though...

I think I've been talked into buying a blackberry. ;)

I was interested in the Treo because of the library of palm software available for it, but with the BB getting more and more popular I think we can expect allot more software soon.
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I had a palm product and really wasn't pleased with it's functionality of it. I bought my first blackberry 7290 and was well worth the $400 spent on it. My friends make fun of me because it's such a part of my life, but as an executive I can't afford to miss out on emails, texting, plus the downloads and programs you can load into it is wonderful. the desktop connector does everything for you; you can control what programs you want loaded onto it at the click of a button. Reception is incredible with cingular, I go all over county roads in texas and oklahoma and can still get reception on blackberry while my other friends phones are out of signal.
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Ask a question like that on this forum and you'll get BB=good, brand X = bad almost every time. I got spooked away from Palm just from reading about the random reboots. My 7100g has changed my life, my teeth are whiter, my laundry is brighter, and I get paid more.
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She also says that for internet only device, the blackberry would be the better choice to make. For voice and data, the Treo may be right for you though...
I think that is the wrong way around... I have a treo 600 and 650, that collect dust for the most part, they have better internet browsing compared to a non-BES blackberry. I think the blackberry has better voice than either of the treo's...

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yes it is worth the switch
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I had a Treo 300 on SPCS and just like the 600/650 users have said, it gave me plenty of headaches. Seemingly random crashes/freezes that would require resets, phone going "out to lunch" on low signal, and so on. I was so disappointed I said "never again..."

I am a 1.5 mo old BB 7520 owner. My first BB. I migrated my life slowly onto it after the letdown I experienced on the Treo but I was aware fairly early on that the BB could be the one. The low cost of entry ($49 after trading that POS Treo 300 in!) helped convince me to try it. It has been nothing but a joy; although I did have some pain upgrading the firmware (etc) and being disappointed about zero Mac support from RIM, I love my BB. It has been rock solid -- no crashes, no lost mail, VERY strong rf on the Nextel network (no dropped calls, etc.) Functional PDA utilities (calendar, etc.) Push mail is the killer app... and GPS/Telenav has made this an epiphany of sorts for me. It is by far the best portable electronic device I've ever owned.

It is now my primary mail device; I rarely use desktop mail client any more other than in an archival mechanism or if I need to send/receive attachments.

So, if you need stable and robust PUSH E-Mail and phone, I'd say go with the BB. It's worth the cost if you conduct business using E-Mail.
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The one item I would add to the previous comments is to think about how you are going to use the device the most. If your PRIMARY use is as a phone than I think my BB7290 is ok but certainly not great, if the primary use is as a PIM/Email/Data tool then I think it's the best thing out there. I've had the fancy phones and think they are very cool but I only want to carry one device these days and because the PIM/Email/Data uses are so important to me I can live with some of the phone side quirks of the BB.

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I have a T650 GSM and a Tmo 7290 - I use both everyday and they each their pros and cons. I use the 7290 for SmartPhoneDepot email and the occasional rollover call from the phone system. I have Berry 411, Verichat and Texas Hold'em loaded.

My personal cell#, Verichat, Express, Monopoly and Solitare are What I run on the Treo. I find myself using the treo camera for quick memory things that I transcribe to notes later. I also prefer the display and web (faster) experience on the Treo.

My treo has been stable but there has been the random - whatever. The7290 - ROCK.

Now you might get the impression that I favor the Treo over the 7290 but If I had to pick a single device the 7290 would win... the BB email is 75% of the deal and the 7290 will do most everything the Treo does.
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Having recently acquired a 7230 I too am convinced that the purchase was the right one. I still enjoy using my Xphone for phone calls and it can also access my Gmail account with little fuss (thank you Google for providing free POP access).
But is signing up for the Blackberry email package actually worth the investment?
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Default Switched from Tmo Treo 600 to Tmo BB 7290

I switched from a Tmo Treo 600 to a Tmo BB 7290. This are my personal views:

Voice:
Treo 10/10 (Earpiece sound is loud and clear - couldn't be better)
BB 7/10 (Earpiece volume too low but very clear. People on the other end say the sound is great. I had a 7100t and people complained constantly about static with OS 4.0 although it was better with OS 3.8.)

Reception:
Treo 10/10
BB 10/10 (Much better than 7100t which was just awful.)

Ringer:
Treo 10/10 (Loud!)
BB 2/10 (Ringers way too low - 7100t was much louder)

E-mail:
Treo 6/10 (Snappermail - I actually liked it until I got a BB)
BB 10/10 (Once you have push mail, there's just no going back)

Browser:
Treo 4/10
BB 10/10 (BB much faster than Treo and better page presentation and menu options. This is a real surprise. It makes browsing a pleasure.)

Ergonomics:
Treo 4/10 (Buttons tiny and menus horrible.)
BB 7/10 (Great buttons and menus. BUT I can't help hitting that poorly-postioned escape button which disconnects calls. That's a BIG problem. If it wasn't for that I would give the BB a 10 because the buttons and menus are exceptional.)

Build quality:
Treo 0/10 (I'm on my fourth. This is ridiculous!)
BB 10/10. Superb.

Software:
Treo 5/10 (It's just not a well-finished product.)
BB 9/10 (Found only one bug in Agenda view.)

Conclusion:
Not sure which way I will jump but I'll probably stick with the BB 7290. If it wasn't for the low volume ringers and the accidental disconnects caused by hitting that escape button it would be no contest.

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I am basically thinking about doing the opposite. I have a BB 7250 from verizon and I'm thinking about replacing the BB with a Treo 650.

I have a Tungsten E and it would be nice to use all of the applications I already have on the treo 650 and eliminate another device to carry around. The only thing holding me back is the da*n camera on the treo. I know that Sprint offers a camera-less treo 650, so I am hoping that Verizon wireless will offer one soon.
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I don't have either yet. Like many others I am doing my homework trying to decide. I make a lot of calls on the road and often have to input new phone numbers. It seems like the touch screen on the treo would be easier to work in this situation because it's like having big buttons to press. I am getting hand cramps from using my mpx220. The only other thing I was worried about was the abililty to edit word,pdf,etc documents. If I'm right, I could recieve a fax on the treo, fill it out, sign it,and send it back. Can I do this on a bb ? I understand there are now 3rd party apps that edit word files etc for bb,are they any good ? Otherwise I would rather have a bb for the better email, and loud speakerphone. Comments,opinions,ideas anyone ?

P.S. I am looking at the bb from nextel and the 650 from verizon. Any particular comments on the models offered by these carriers ?
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