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ballerx 08-15-2007 06:08 PM

It has to be Asked
 
Okay so with all this talk about the 8820, I have to ask what the chances are of having an 8800 series device over on the CDMA side of the world i.e Verzion/Sprint where it will have the GPS/Bluetooth/Wifi/EVDO :smile:

aalok 08-15-2007 07:11 PM

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You will most likly have to wait a couple months for a cdma 8820, and it will have to be sprint because verizon will not have the gps enabled, it took a good 6 months for the 8830 to come out for sprint after it had already been out in gsm form... So don't hold your breath man...

Kyos 08-15-2007 07:11 PM

I say 0.

wabbit 08-15-2007 07:25 PM

i would not hold my breath waiting for verizon to have a wifi phone, and if a 8820 is offered on vz the wifi will probably not be installed on the phone :P

thunder33cat 08-15-2007 09:00 PM

On one hand, I respectfully disagree with wabbit, because Verizon already has WIFI-enabled PPC phones... but on the other hand - you may be waiting until 2009 or 2010 before Verizon releases a BB with one (please refer to the ongoing i760 and xv6800 saga playing out right now in the PPC arena). Your chances are probably markedly better with Sprint in that regard.

wabbit 08-15-2007 09:20 PM

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Well I have been on vz since 01, they literally add new phones years later heck look at the raza phone, 2 years later vz carried it, as the last carrier to adopt it.

In reality after everyone had it moto signed the cripple disable 1/2 the phone was it released.

Why do you think vz said no to mac, mac didn't want the phone crippled.

And since vz just added the 8830 in 2 years we might see a new phone from vz. Imo I think after so many years with vz you just get used to it. Sprint/tmo/att will see new phones before vz. Just how vz works tho.

gibber9583 08-16-2007 06:38 AM

How is VZW any different than sprint when it comes to phone selection and 'new' phones?

greggebhardt 08-16-2007 06:53 AM

Some carriers seem to get more new devices than others. I would guess it is a money thing made directly with the maker of the hardware. RIM is paid to develope and deliver hardware to a carrier.

It looks like AT&T is the high bidder to RIM on the last few new Blackerrys. I hate to think how much was paid for the iPhone exclusive!

takeshi 08-16-2007 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ballerx (Post 634674)
Okay so with all this talk about the 8820, I have to ask what the chances are of having an 8800 series device over on the CDMA side of the world i.e Verzion/Sprint where it will have the GPS/Bluetooth/Wifi/EVDO :smile:

It's really more of a question of "when?'. CDMA BB's always seem to get released much further down the road. I wouldn't expect one for at least 2-6 months after the GSM counterparts are released.

ballerx 08-16-2007 11:12 AM

Thanks for all the info guys, Im up for my upgrade with sprint in november so ill just wait and see whats out then or if there are any rumors of the 8820 type device coming up for sprint. If not ill just settle for the 8800. I sorta already have a Nokia 770 that I carry instead of a laptop for all my wifi needs as well as email.

wabbit 08-16-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by greggebhardt
Some carriers seem to get more new devices than others. I would guess it is a money thing made directly with the maker of the hardware. RIM is paid to develope and deliver hardware to a carrier.

It looks like AT&T is the high bidder to RIM on the last few new Blackerrys. I hate to think how much was paid for the iPhone exclusive!

Iphone was first offered to vz, which was declined over a year ago, I do think mac pays att, not att to mac to carry the phone since all support etc is handled by mac even activation is done by itunes to mac.

jsconyers 08-16-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wabbit (Post 635476)
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Iphone was first offered to vz, which was declined over a year ago, I do think mac pays att, not att to mac to carry the phone since all support etc is handled by mac even activation is done by itunes to mac.

AT&T are still paying apple, they are paying them a certain amount per month per subscriber.


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liable_damfly 08-16-2007 01:14 PM

GSM gets wifi because there's an available solution for wifi-to-edge/gprs/gsm and edge/gprs/gsm-to-wifi hand-off of voice and data traffic. RIM took so long to throw wifi in the mix because they were adamant that seamless hand-off was a requirement for enterprise users. I'm not a doctor, but I'm not aware of any such solution available for cdma. So until someone develops such a solution, you'll have wifiless cdma blackberries. At least you've got your evdo and (if you're lucky) your gps.


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