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funkyp56 08-16-2007 01:38 PM

Check this crappy news out
 
MacNN | AT&T crippling BlackBerry to appease Apple?

gibber9583 08-16-2007 01:48 PM

hahahaha!

I only find this so amusing because i am a VZW customer.

greggebhardt 08-16-2007 01:55 PM

Yep more about it here EXCLUSIVE: AT&T neuters the BlackBerry 8820 in favor of the iPhone | BlackBerry Cool

Does not bother me as I could care less about the GPS and not too much about the WiFi abilities.

gibber9583 08-16-2007 02:49 PM

Same here. I have no need for the wifi, nor do am I all that upset abotu the GPS.

nnclyn 08-16-2007 03:08 PM

So the bottom line is...if you don't care about wi-fi, the 8800 is a better unit than the 8820?

Steve-hose 08-16-2007 03:08 PM

Seems like Sprint is the only one left not neutering...now if we could only get the new phones sooner...

Dawg 08-16-2007 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greggebhardt (Post 635588)
Yep more about it here EXCLUSIVE: AT&T neuters the BlackBerry 8820 in favor of the iPhone | BlackBerry Cool

Does not bother me as I could care less about the GPS and not too much about the WiFi abilities.

I feel the same way

also cant you just see all the ATT disables the GPS im sueing threads now.

there are already three threads on this very subject lol

gibber9583 08-16-2007 03:44 PM

The 8800 is the better unit I'd say. I have more use for GPS than i do for wifi.

Tmo and Sprint are apparently the only companies left that arent 'crippling' features that a phone has. Oh well! Maybe someone will file a class action? hahaha

Dawg 08-16-2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibber9583 (Post 635721)
The 8800 is the better unit I'd say. I have more use for GPS than i do for wifi.

Tmo and Sprint are apparently the only companies left that arent 'crippling' features that a phone has. Oh well! Maybe someone will file a class action? hahaha

I talked vzw into letting me upgrade early so I am gonna get the 8830 soon

birddog 08-16-2007 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibber9583 (Post 635721)
The 8800 is the better unit I'd say. I have more use for GPS than i do for wifi.

Tmo and Sprint are apparently the only companies left that arent 'crippling' features that a phone has. Oh well! Maybe someone will file a class action? hahaha

Hmmm.. Do you really think AT&T will carry both the 8800 and 8820. I'd be willing to bet that they stop selling the 8800 around the same time the 8820 hits the shelves.

JRSCCivic98 08-16-2007 04:52 PM

I suggest no one upgrade the firmware on their 8800 after this news is out. They may flood the lockout lower down the chain of models.

Also, I don't see any "logical" reason for doing this by ATT. There's really no major competition against the iPhone's capabilities vs BB. They are completely different solutions in my viewpoint.

Here's what's really going to bake your noodle. What if, just what if, this is some kind of "insider setup" triggered by some relationship between ATT and Verizon? Yeah, I know what you're thinking... conspiracy theory anyone? All I'm saying, if this sort of things floods to the other carriers, in perticular Sprint then you know VZW is behind this tactic wayyyyyyyyyyy inside the organization. VZW needs something to back their "reasons" for GPS disable on the 8830 short of being accused of extortion... what better way to show "you're not alone" then to get the other big dogs to play the same game. The corporations win and the consumer looses in this scenario and VZW gets away scott free... yet again. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens with the other carriers.

I can't wait until WIFI gets locked out. :LOL: Pretty soon we'll have BBs that can only take phone calls and nothing else.

RIM really should have stuck to their guns on this. Freaking sellouts.... again.

wabbit 08-16-2007 05:00 PM

Wirelessly posted (8830: BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

Rim has to please their customer. Being att, vz, sprint etc. What is intresting if it really is over an iphone LOL @ att. But heck att bend over backword and gave a phone mfg more power then the provider so.

ceschab 08-16-2007 05:14 PM

"The carrier allegedly threatened to drop BlackBerries entirely from its network when RIM protested the limitation, according to the source."

No way. Does any one seriously believe ATT would put itself in a position to be the only provider in North America not to sell Blackberries. They would lose a helluva lot more customers than just those who want full GPS capability. Why risk losing that customer base when when the initial enthusiasm for the iPhone will soon wear off (if it hasn't already) and it will be nothing more than than just another smartphone.

ladydi 08-16-2007 05:27 PM

I'm so glad to be with t-mobile. I made the right decision on that one!! I love the GPS on my phone and my users are loving it too. They all want new 8800's.

I can see the merits of the conspiracy theory between Verizon and ATT. The cell companies are starting to band together to screw the consumer unfortunately.

hnsimpson 08-16-2007 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladydi (Post 635807)
I'm so glad to be with t-mobile. I made the right decision on that one!! I love the GPS on my phone and my users are loving it too. They all want new 8800's.

I can see the merits of the conspiracy theory between Verizon and ATT. The cell companies are starting to band together to screw the consumer unfortunately.

I wish Tmobile would show up here in western NC...I had them when I was based out of Atlanta and covering the US. Best service I ever had, and the least expensive.

-simpson

ArgonNJ 08-16-2007 07:47 PM

Just another reason why being a customers on the largest networks doesn't always pay. The bigger they are, the more likely they are to screw the customer, because they can. Small carriers like Sprint and T Mobile give you better pricing because they don't take their customers for granted.

Dawg 08-16-2007 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArgonNJ (Post 635894)
Just another reason why being a customers on the largest networks doesn't always pay. The bigger they are, the more likely they are to screw the customer, because they can. Small carriers like Sprint and T Mobile give you better pricing because they don't take their customers for granted.

but thats not a valid argument sprint is more expensive for me.

GT5L 08-16-2007 08:10 PM

i'd be willing to work on unlocking the GPS on the 88xx could someone send me a download link for the VZW 8830 OS, I am not a verizon customer so I can't download it from either bb or VZW

Berry O Black 08-16-2007 08:39 PM

Wow, I'm glad T-Mobile doesnt let one single manufacture(Apple) inhibit releasing important features on other manufactures products. They might was well just stop selling other PDA products and just sell iphonies. They opened up a can of worms when they let apple have so much control over the way the do buisness. Anyhow ill be happy with my Voip and WIFI Curve @ T-Mobile next month. Life just couldnt be sweeter. LOL

JRSCCivic98 08-16-2007 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT5L (Post 635897)
i'd be willing to work on unlocking the GPS on the 88xx could someone send me a download link for the VZW 8830 OS, I am not a verizon customer so I can't download it from either bb or VZW

You're wasting your time. It's not even linked to the OS. It's linked to the firmware file which is the same throughout all the carriers (at least the instruction set to disable the GPS on VZW). If you really want to fix this issue find a way to change the Carrier ID the phone shows when you do #HELP* Send. If you can change this ID you can defeat the GPS lockout. Find my other posts on this, I'm getting tired of repeating myself.


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