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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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12-05-2008, 10:42 AM
mine worked this AM, though not consistently...Find Location>Where I Am was stuck on searching for satellites. But I tried "Start GPS Navigation" and that found my location quickly. Then I went back to the Find Location option and it worked again.
I suspect they have some issues to work out - either in the service book or on the server side...hopefully this will get more consistent/reliable.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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12-05-2008, 12:27 PM
Nevermind, working again. FYI it also works on newest 4.5 release (4.5.0.122).
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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12-05-2008, 12:46 PM
Also works on 4.5.0.97 (beta) on the Pearl, also seen folks using it on Pearl w/.77, .89, and I believe .66.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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12-05-2008, 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redflea
Also, my Freedom 2000 GPS puck would work inside my company's office building.
The Pearl internal GPS won't work (can't find satellites) so the internal GPS may not be as robust as some external pucks.
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that's because the Pearl doesn't have GPS, just triangulation, Verizon controls the level of precision the phone is allowed to use, so your probably just not getting a strong enough signal from at least three towers.
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12-05-2008, 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCanFury
that's because the Pearl doesn't have GPS, just triangulation, Verizon controls the level of precision the phone is allowed to use, so your probably just not getting a strong enough signal from at least three towers.
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Not entirely correct. Some Pearl models DO have GPS.
Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else use it, and get a new one every six months.
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Blackberry Hurricane
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Model: 9630
OS: 5.0.0.230
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12-05-2008, 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by floz23
I can confirm this works on my 8830, yes 8830, running .101
Finally, I can throw off the chains of VZNavigator.
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Yes. Also working on 8830, 4.5.0.77
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12-05-2008, 02:42 PM
At least all 8130's have GPS.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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12-05-2008, 03:30 PM
It finally worked for me, once. I tried it again 5 minutes later and it stopped working (kept searching for satellites). So, it is very intermittent.
--Ariel
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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12-05-2008, 03:55 PM
BB Maps is now working for me (with GPS location). I did not even have to Start GPS Location. I did have to install BB Maps, though. Google Maps shows my location accurate to 2300 meters (i.e. tower triangulation) and just says "Waiting for GPS"
- Stuart
Verizon 8130 (on the bench, now 
Verizon 9530
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12-05-2008, 04:50 PM
Wirelessly posted (Blackberry Curve 4.6.0.62)
Been workibg great all day.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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12-05-2008, 07:47 PM
BB Maps is working much better now that I only use the "Start GPS Navigation" option rather than "Find Location"...for some reason Find Location feature fails most of the time, while the GPS Navigation seems to work well.
The 8130 does indeed have GPS...the new Pearls:
8110: GPS, no WiFi
8120: WiFi, no GPS
8130: GPS, no WiFi
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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12-05-2008, 07:49 PM
Was working great on my Verizon Curve this morning, for awhile, then it stopped and hasn't been working since. I keep checking it though, hoping it wasn't just a big mistake at Verizon that someone is getting fired over.
I was impressed that it showed me how fast my car was driving, to the exact MPH too.
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12-05-2008, 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redflea
BB Maps is working much better now that I only use the "Start GPS Navigation" option rather than "Find Location"...for some reason Find Location feature fails most of the time, while the GPS Navigation seems to work well.
The 8130 does indeed have GPS...the new Pearls:
8110: GPS, no WiFi
8120: WiFi, no GPS
8130: GPS, no WiFi
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Yep thats what I am using as well and works great.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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12-05-2008, 10:56 PM
OH! It's working again! Probably had nothing to do with it, but I updated my 4.5 OS to the newest 4.5.0.89 and it started working again. Happy now
And both functions ("Start GPS Navigation" and "Find Location") work perfectly and quickly find me.
Last edited by lindajm22 : 12-05-2008 at 10:58 PM.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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12-06-2008, 01:39 AM
Mine is working perfectly. How do you go about turning it on/off? just closing BBMaps? a few posts back said its going to drain battery faster - THAT I cant live with!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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12-06-2008, 08:08 AM
[quote=alb123;1198476]Mine is working perfectly. How do you go about turning it on/off? just closing BBMaps? a few posts back said its going to drain battery faster>
Hit the menu key-Stop GPS Navigation-then close BB Maps
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Bay Harbor Butcher
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12-06-2008, 01:45 PM
Wirelessly posted
Tried it with Mapquest 4 Mobile, doesn't seem to work either of course I can't seem to find the option to enable GPS within the program lol.
For the first time I feel the future might hold something different for me. It's possible I'm fooling myself but I'm willing to take the risk.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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12-06-2008, 03:22 PM
Wirelessly posted
Will they unlock is for anything else? Like live search, or google maps??
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12-06-2008, 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpentine009
Wirelessly posted
Will they unlock is for anything else? Like live search, or google maps??
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I highly doubt it. I think it was a smart move they opened it up to work with the device manufactures software.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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12-06-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CO_BBTechie
Fine... do what you want. But you're making it more difficult for people to follow this by having more than one thread for people to report their failures & successes.... I'm pretty sure that's why the rules are there.
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I probably shouldn't do this, but I can't help it... I've been following most of the VZW GPS Posts actively, in all forums... And you... You are quite rude and out of place in most of them.. You repeatidly jump down people's throats for posting things you don't find appropriate... With "all due respect" (not that you are due any) you are a user here, just like the rest of us.. Stop acting so arrogant! If a post or topic is wasteful or bothersome to you for one reason or another, how about you ignore it, or don't read it, instead of posting your dissagreement in each and every one of them!
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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12-07-2008, 01:55 AM
GPS worked all day today, and even Find Location>Where am I worked inside my house.
Local Search is flaky....it seemed to cache results and gave the same answer for two different searches (Sushi and Mexican showed the same restaurants) and persisted until I cleared the map and started over. Repeatable issue...
Also, though it says "Google Search Results" the Local Search results page, the the search results are really poor compared to an actual Google search in the browser....BB Maps Local Search brings up 3 restaurants, actual Google Search brings up multiple pages....
The results should be the same...unfortunate.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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12-07-2008, 09:34 PM
Wow.... Nice. Me happier.
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Geotagging -
12-09-2008, 03:03 PM
I have a VZW BB 8330 running 4.5.0.77. I am able to get BB maps to locate me using GPS, but if I enable geotagging in the camera application I just get the red x over the pic of the satellite. Has anyone been able to get this to work?
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12-09-2008, 05:00 PM
Geotagging doesn't appear to be enabled yet for those who tried, however, one person did post that they had it working in the 8100 forum, but haven't seen anyone verify, or the person who posted clarify how and what he did.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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12-12-2008, 01:15 AM
[quote=bsachais;1198589]
Quote:
Originally Posted by alb123
Mine is working perfectly. How do you go about turning it on/off? just closing BBMaps? a few posts back said its going to drain battery faster>
Hit the menu key-Stop GPS Navigation-then close BB Maps
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ahh, thanks! Kinda feel like a Duh.....moment now! haha
Unfortunately, Im getting the spinning wheels "Searching for Satellites" all of a sudden.
Just in case I inadvertantly messed something up on my own..I should have the following set:
OPTIONS > ADVANCED > GPS
GPS Data Source - only available option right now says "Device GPS"
GPS Service "Location On" NOT 911 Only.
OPTIONS > ADVANCED > MAPS
Default Service shows BlackBerry Maps - NA
OPTIONS > ADVANCED > SERVICE BOOK - current shows BlackBerry Maps -NA [LbsConfig]
finally...
in my Maps app > options GPS Source is Internal GPS
Default Service again shows Blackberry Maps - NA
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12-12-2008, 10:54 AM
That's all correct...if things don't start working again, you can do the normal...
- Make sure you're outside w/a clear view of the sky - for me the internal GPS is useless indoors
- Battery pull
- Send service books
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Thanks -
12-13-2008, 01:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redflea
That's all correct...if things don't start working again, you can do the normal...
- Make sure you're outside w/a clear view of the sky - for me the internal GPS is useless indoors
- Battery pull
- Send service books
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Thanks for the quick response!
Suggestion #1: I confess I didn't even think of that! Will try tomorrow!
Suggestion #2: I have tried that but not thinking of it "fixing" my problem. I just keep a 2nd battery charging on my docking station. So, I can attest that when I did a battery swap today, still no go...
Suggestion #3: Thought of that but never DID it..Grrrrr....As well, I will try tomorrow if suggestion #1 doesn't work...Hospital Dilaudid is kicking in, nicely.
Chris
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12-13-2008, 06:15 PM
Good to hear you're being well taken care of...
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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12-16-2008, 11:51 AM
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12-16-2008, 03:10 PM
It's already unlocked for BB...
(before you say "only for BB Maps", let me point out that people are reporting that Garmin Mobile works on Verizon phones)
- Stuart
Verizon 8130 (on the bench, now 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-04-2009, 11:06 AM
Sorry to Bump an old thread.
But if you want a truly unlocked aGPS youll need to input the aGPS IP and Port #. This is to the firmware and not to the OS so You will need your SPC (000000) and QPST
8130 qpst 2.7 build 301 Surf6300-BB
8330 qpst 2.7 build 215 Surf6300-BB
9530 qpst 2.7 build 301 Surf7500-A
In QPST Service Programming Press read from phone and inpout your SPC then go to the gpsONE tab and input the IP and Port
Verizon:
PDE IP Address: 66.174.95.132
PDE Port number: 8888
PDE Transport: IP
Position Calculation: Mobile
When you press write to phone you'll get an error and your phone will reboot but this is normal.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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02-04-2009, 02:43 PM
How does one access QPST Service Programming? Is that a piece of software that we can get from somewhere? Is it something on the phone and we just need instructions on how to access it?
- Stuart
Verizon 8130 (on the bench, now 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-04-2009, 03:03 PM
Just google QPST it will come up. QPST (Qualcomm Product Support Tool) is an application developed by Qualcomm for cellular phones that feature Qualcomm chipsets. You can write to the firmware with it. You'll need you SPC but I think all Verizon's are set to 000000.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-04-2009, 03:08 PM
I did up a two part guide. Part two is by Unibomber of HoFo.
I need 10 posts for the link.
For Verizon just skip the SPC part
Last edited by HouseApe : 02-04-2009 at 03:12 PM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-04-2009, 03:11 PM
Now I can post the link.
HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - View Single Post - Storm and Curve GPS Fix
And the link to the thread
HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - Storm and Curve GPS Fix
This is all the info I have gathered for the PDE IP and Ports
Telus:
PDE IP Address = 216.198.139.92
PDE Port Number = 8889
PDE Transport = IP
Position Calculation = Mobile
Bell:
PDE IP Address: 206.47.201.75
PDE Port number: 8888
PDE Transport: IP
Position Calculation: Mobile
Alltel: (use this for USCC)
PDE IP Address = 205.142.19.100
PDE Port Number = 8888
PDE Transport = IP
Position Calculation = Mobile
MetroPCS:
Server IP Address = 198.17.1.0
Server Port Number = 3425
PDE Transport = IP
Position Calcultation = PDE
Sprint:
PDE IP Address = 68.28.31.49
PDE Port Number = 5017
PDE Transport = IP
Position Calculation = Mobile
Verizon:
PDE IP Address: 66.174.95.132
PDE Port number: 8888
PDE Transport: IP
Position Calculation: Mobile
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-06-2009, 11:58 AM
I'm a bit confused here. I performed the QPST changes, entering in the Verizon info above for my Verizon Curve, but I still can't recognize GPS with any of my programs (Where, Beyond411, Garmin, etc). Am I missing something? Is this supposed to unlock GPS for all programs?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kusellout69
I'm a bit confused here. I performed the QPST changes, entering in the Verizon info above for my Verizon Curve, but I still can't recognize GPS with any of my programs (Where, Beyond411, Garmin, etc). Am I missing something? Is this supposed to unlock GPS for all programs?
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Does your BB Maps work ?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-08-2009, 03:00 PM
Yes, BB Maps worked as soon as I upgraded to 4.5. I thought maybe doing the QPST changes would open up GSP for additional applications. Is that not correct?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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02-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Finally Verizon users can use Spot and other 3rd party apps on their BB. 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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02-10-2009, 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by funkym
Finally Verizon users can use Spot and other 3rd party apps on their BB. 
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Have you got these applications to work or are you just making an assumption? I haven't been able to get anything except BB Maps to work using the instructions above.
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