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Malkier · 08-30-2007, 02:08 AM

BlackBerry Cools post on the matter:

RIM and AT&T are negotiating a deal to leave the BlackBerry 8820 un-neutered; the Internet wins | BlackBerry Cool

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Another good one!

greggebhardt · 08-30-2007, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galvatron

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8800/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Hech yeah I ussually buy my devices at invoice to avoid conract extensiion and possabl raiss of rates. Give me the un waterd down stuff heck I was intersted in on of thos htc advantage prototypes. Th 87501 just to see how it performs befor brandind also the shit wich is baseed off this prototype is 100-200 mhz slower than the prototype. And prbaly crippled . Imagain what no whatered dow bb's can do alon with an unrestricted os.

I doubt "we" would understand what you were talkign about if we heard you say it, much less write it. How far did you get thru school.

PULL YOUR PANTS UP!!!!!!!!

test54 · 08-30-2007, 08:44 AM

I'm still in the belief that this was all a blog publicity thing and the ATT was going to do nothing different from the 8820 than they did in 8800.
Couple of blogs got alot of press out of this "crippling".

Dawg · **OS:** 4.5.0.138

Quote:

Originally Posted by test54

I'm still in the belief that this was all a blog publicity thing and the ATT was going to do nothing different from the 8820 than they did in 8800.
Couple of blogs got alot of press out of this "crippling".

I think you may very well be right

mansa · 08-30-2007, 04:49 PM

I think the true answer will never be known.

What if AT&T really did plan to limit the GPS?

And then the blog let the cat out of the bag...

And then AT&T changed their mind...

And asked for it to be reverted.

Would there ever be a record of this, on the consumer side of things? I highly doubt it.

test54 · 08-30-2007, 04:59 PM

AT&T, the BlackBerry 8820, and GPS: BGR MythBusters Edition | The Boy Genius Report

jibi has answered the questions.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Back in the old days of BBF, Jibi's user title was "The Internet." He's a smart guy.

I only gave the rumors merit because at the same time that news broke from Blackberrycool, Google Maps removed Bluetooth Support from the 8300's version of Google Maps. BBMaps removed the option as well. So, the news along with those two events had me wondering if something was up.

Google Maps has since added back in the Bluetooth Support for the 8300. Was it a simple oversight on Google's part? Was it all part of a big conspiracy to remove GPS from the "free" world? I'll leave that up to you as I don't know the answer, nor will I ever.

Just glad it was all a big rumor....or was it?

KaZen · **8820 GPS is crippled. -** 10-09-2007, 05:40 PM

BlackBerryCool was right (and wrong). I bought an 8820 and it *is* crippled! the GPS *only* works with TeleNav.

After literally *hours* on the phone with ATT and RIM. I'm taking the phone back to ATT right now.

Caveat Emptor!

MichaelBB · 10-09-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaZen

BlackBerryCool was right (and wrong). I bought an 8820 and it *is* crippled! the GPS *only* works with TeleNav.

After literally *hours* on the phone with ATT and RIM. I'm taking the phone back to ATT right now.

Caveat Emptor!

Take this with a grain of salt or however, but I had one of those 2 weeks ago and it was NOT locked down, Google maps worked , BBMaps worked, so either AT&T change it or you have NO idea of what the **** your doing with GPS, I returned mine, have something better IHMO. But I know of 3 people that use the GPS with what I already said and they HAVE NO Problems.

DID you try reloading the OS?, AT&T's tech support was awesome for the BB when I had it, just could NOT stomach the over charging for data and txt messages.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaZen

BlackBerryCool was right (and wrong). I bought an 8820 and it *is* crippled! the GPS *only* works with TeleNav.

After literally *hours* on the phone with ATT and RIM. I'm taking the phone back to ATT right now.

Caveat Emptor!

Welcome to the forums,

Your post really doesn't help anyone, including yourself. What would have been helpful to you, and to us, would have been for you to post the problems you were having before taking the phone back. 140,000 forum members can, in many instances, solve problems that CSR's can't (and vice versa, occasionally.)

What exactly was the problem you had?

kdog1176 · 10-09-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaZen

BlackBerryCool was right (and wrong). I bought an 8820 and it *is* crippled! the GPS *only* works with TeleNav.

After literally *hours* on the phone with ATT and RIM. I'm taking the phone back to ATT right now.

Caveat Emptor!

I have had no problems with GPS on my 8820 using Google Maps. It works great.

KaZen

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

Welcome to the forums,

Your post really doesn't help anyone, including yourself. What would have been helpful to you, and to us, would have been for you to post the problems you were having before taking the phone back. 140,000 forum members can, in many instances, solve problems that CSR's can't (and vice versa, occasionally.)

What exactly was the problem you had?

After posting I realized exactly this same thing. So. I've kept my phone. I activated TeleNav and *then* the GPS works fine, with TeleNav *and* Google Maps.

I called ATT and had them disable TeleNav and then the GPS does *not* work again.

RIM support *and* ATT support have both told me that the $5 or $10 TeleNav subscription *is* required in order to use the GPS.

Also I *installed* BBMaps on my phone through the desktop software, but due to the BlackBerry.alx or whatever file the *icon* won't show up.

If someone has Google Maps working with GPS on the 8820 I'm willing to bet they signed up for the 30 day free trial of TeleNav.

If so, they are going to be *very* unhappy when they cancel TeleNav and Google Maps stops working also.

I'd be *very* interested in hearing differences of opinion. If someone has an Idea of how to make it work without the service I will be *more that willing* to call ATT and disable the service again to test.

Since I have a full 30 days to take the phone back to ATT I will keep it around in case *someone* can prove me wrong (Please!!!).

This is my first BlackBerry. I was *very* angry with ATT yesterday. I'm still mad, but have talked to some *very* polite CSR's and I've calmed somewhat.

Stinsonddog · 10-10-2007, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaZen

After posting I realized exactly this same thing. So. I've kept my phone. I activated TeleNav and *then* the GPS works fine, with TeleNav *and* Google Maps.

I called ATT and had them disable TeleNav and then the GPS does *not* work again.

RIM support *and* ATT support have both told me that the $5 or $10 TeleNav subscription *is* required in order to use the GPS.

Also I *installed* BBMaps on my phone through the desktop software, but due to the BlackBerry.alx or whatever file the *icon* won't show up.

If someone has Google Maps working with GPS on the 8820 I'm willing to bet they signed up for the 30 day free trial of TeleNav.

If so, they are going to be *very* unhappy when they cancel TeleNav and Google Maps stops working also.

I'd be *very* interested in hearing differences of opinion. If someone has an Idea of how to make it work without the service I will be *more that willing* to call ATT and disable the service again to test.

Since I have a full 30 days to take the phone back to ATT I will keep it around in case *someone* can prove me wrong (Please!!!).

This is my first BlackBerry. I was *very* angry with ATT yesterday. I'm still mad, but have talked to some *very* polite CSR's and I've calmed somewhat.

See the sticky to get BBMaps to show the icon. Then go outside with the BB away from your body and no buildings around and see if you can get the GPS t work. Bet it does.

KaZen · **Respectfully Disagree -** 10-10-2007, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelBB

Take this with a grain of salt or however, but I had one of those 2 weeks ago and it was NOT locked down, Google maps worked , BBMaps worked, so either AT&T change it or you have NO idea of what the **** your doing with GPS, I returned mine, have something better IHMO. But I know of 3 people that use the GPS with what I already said and they HAVE NO Problems.

DID you try reloading the OS?, AT&T's tech support was awesome for the BB when I had it, just could NOT stomach the over charging for data and txt messages.

My 8820 came loaded with v4.2.2.169 (Platform 2.4.0.67) The latest (in fact the only) version I could find for the 8820. The LBS.alx file includes the stanza:

Code:

<!-- For 8800 series, hide the icon for AT&T (102), Vodafone Germany (124), Vodafone Austria (137) and all Orange properties, including Amena (Orange Spain - 175). -->
  <fileset SystemSize="normal" Colour="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="~102|124|137|119|162|142|183|147|217|175" series="8800">
   <files>
        net_rim_bb_lbs_ribbon.cod
   </files>
  </fileset>

But I went ahead and reinstalled anyway.

The GPS *only* works if you subscribe to the TeleNav service. But once you subscribe to TeleNav it will work with Goolgle Maps, etc. (just not BBMaps since you can't run it).

This is my first BB, but I *am* a technical person. I'd not post without doing a fair amount of research. Even if I did "have NO idea of what the **** [I'm] doing with GPS" I'd still stand by my research into this matter.
1. Confirmation with at&t "You have to have the TeleNav service to use the GPS"
2. Confirmation with RIM "at&t requires you purchase a TeleNav subscription to have access to the GPS"
3. My own verification that with the TeleNav Service I can read the GPS:
Options->Advanced Options->GPS->Refresh GPS acquires lat long.
4. My own verification that witout TeleNav Service I *cannot* read the GPS:
Options->Advanced Options->GPS->Refresh GPS *fails* to aquire lat long.

Notice my tests dont even use TeleNav, Google or anything other than the BB OS itself to try to read from the GPS.

JSanders · 10-10-2007, 11:46 PM

I'm gonna *have* to hear from *other* users before I am convinced.

What does *this* mean?

KaZen · **BGR acknowledges GPS-locked to TeleNav -** 10-11-2007, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSanders

I'm gonna *have* to hear from *other* users before I am convinced.

What does *this* mean?

Sorry *this* is shortcut for this. Some Forum software understands that shorthand, and usually when it doesn't the person reading it does.

As far as hearing from other users, how about BGR:
TeleNav sits down with us | The Boy Genius Report

Quote:

Did TeleNav know that the BlackBerry 8820 would be GPS-locked to only TeleNav ?

BGR, at least, seems to acknowledge that the 8820 is in fact "GPS-locked".

kdog1176 · 10-11-2007, 06:37 AM

The GPS on my 8820 works with google maps and I don't recall subscribing to telenav. I checked my att account online and do not see a telenav subscription.

kdog1176 · 10-11-2007, 10:16 AM

Ok I also installed BB Maps on my 8820 and edited LBS.alx file for icon to display. Launched the app and GPS is working.

I don't think you can subscribe to telenav without either calling them/AT&T or registering at there website (neither of which I have done). I went ahead and installed the telenav app (using the telenav download link on my blackberrry). After it installed I launched it and it asks for a ID (phone #) and pin/password. The FAQ section of the telenav download link stated the default pin/password would be the last 4 digits of my phone # (or the pin created when registering at telenav.com). I tried the last 4 digits of my phone # and could not log into the telenav app to use it. I think this is because I do not have a subscription.

KaZen · **Lets Compare. -** 10-11-2007, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdog1176

Ok I also installed BB Maps on my 8820 and edited LBS.alx file for icon to display. Launched the app and GPS is working.

I don't think you can subscribe to telenav without either calling them/AT&T or registering at there website (neither of which I have done). I went ahead and installed the telenav app (using the telenav download link on my blackberrry). After it installed I launched it and it asks for a ID (phone #) and pin/password. The FAQ section of the telenav download link stated the default pin/password would be the last 4 digits of my phone # (or the pin created when registering at telenav.com). I tried the last 4 digits of my phone # and could not log into the telenav app to use it. I think this is because I do not have a subscription.

This is the printout from wireless.att.com of my account when GPS does work:

Code:

On your bill your rate plan will appear as: NATP450RUMM5KNW
ANYTIME MINUTES 	450
NIGHT/WKND MINUTES 	5000
MOBILE TO MOBILE 	Unlimited

INCLUDED FEATURES

MONTHLY COST
450 Rollover Mins 	$0.00
AT&T Domestic LD 	$0.00
GSM Coverage Area 	$0.00
Multimedia-PayPerMsg 	$0.00
Unlimited Expd M2M 	$0.00
5000 N&W 		$0.00
AT&T Direct Bill 	$0.00
AT&T Roam LD 		$0.00

ADDED FEATURES

MONTHLY COST

Manage Features
BBRYBISUNL 		$29.99
Detailed Billing 	$0.00
ExpandedIntlRoamgSvc 	$0.00
GAIT Calling Area 	$0.00
IMS APN Feature 	$0.00
TELENAV ROUTES UNL 	$0.00
TELENAV ROUTES UNL 	$9.99
Text Messaging 100 	$2.99
Upgrade Fee 		$0.00

I'll try having TeleNav turned off again and I'll repeat my tests. Since I've reinstalled the OS with the modified .alx files, hopefully I will have better results.

kdog1176 · 10-11-2007, 12:59 PM

Good luck!

Also, I am curious, how did you initially add the telenav subscription to your AT&T plan. Was it by calling a CSR at AT&T? For the life of me, I do not even see anywhere on wireless.att.com to even add the telenav feature to my plan online.

KaZen · **How I signed up and service w/out TeleNav -** 10-11-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdog1176

Good luck!

Also, I am curious, how did you initially add the telenav subscription to your AT&T plan. Was it by calling a CSR at AT&T? For the life of me, I do not even see anywhere on wireless.att.com to even add the telenav feature to my plan online.

I signed up on the TeleNav website first, but that wound up being the wrong thing to do as ATT didn't know I had signed up and the GPS didn't work. I called ATT and a CSR added the service to my plan and forwarded me to TeleNav to have the duplicate charge removed.

I have now removed TeleNav. If the GPS still works (hopefully! I can't test right now as I'm at the office) I'll post here, keep the phone and be a happy customer once again. If not, I'm curious if there is a way I can compare service with someone who has a working GPS without TeleNav, to see how our accounts differ.

I bought my 8820 from an at&t retail store in NYC. It's a personal account that has a business discount as my employer has negotiated a discount for employees.

I have the basic BB Service (as listed below) for $29.99.

/me crosses fingers!

Here is my sub info without TeleNav:

Code:

On your bill your rate plan will appear as: NATP450RUMM5KNW
ANYTIME MINUTES 	450
NIGHT/WKND MINUTES 	5000
MOBILE TO MOBILE 	Unlimited

INCLUDED FEATURES

MONTHLY COST
450 Rollover Mins 	$0.00
AT&T Domestic LD 	$0.00
GSM Coverage Area 	$0.00
Multimedia-PayPerMsg 	$0.00
Unlimited Expd M2M 	$0.00
5000 N&W 		$0.00
AT&T Direct Bill 	$0.00
AT&T Roam LD 		$0.00

ADDED FEATURES

MONTHLY COST

Manage Features
BBRYBISUNL 		$29.99
Detailed Billing 	$0.00
ExpandedIntlRoamgSvc 	$0.00
GAIT Calling Area 	$0.00
IMS APN Feature 	$0.00
Text Messaging 100 	$2.99
Upgrade Fee 		$0.00

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

GPS is not dependent on the account. Many others here are working without TeleNav.

KaZen · **Re-confirmed. No TeleNav = No GPS! -** 10-11-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

GPS is not dependent on the account. Many others here are working without TeleNav.

That is true for non-8820. But I've now re-verified no TeleNav = No GPS on my at&t branded 8820.

richard371 · 10-11-2007, 08:06 PM

gps works on all my free gos apps on my 8820. I do not use telenav.

KaZen · 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard371

gps works on all my free gos apps on my 8820. I do not use telenav.

To paraphrase someone else... Your post was less than useful. It didn't help me and it didn't help you.

What platform, etc, is your phone? Is your 8820 an att unit or an unlocked european device?

I'm not saying it doesn't work for you. I am saying I've now verified three times myself, and with both att and RIM that the intent is that you must buy TeleNav in order to use the gps on an 8820.

If you don't have to, GREAT! Help me figure out how to replicate your success.

People telling me "you have NO idea of what the **** your doing with GPS" doesn't help me solve my problem

JSanders · 12:12 AM

kaZen, there is nothing gained by your berating other users here, clean those posts up or find another site who will enjoy your ranting.

Because someone posts information they think might be helpful should not result in a response like that.

You want help? How about asking? Use "please" it works wonders.

John Clark · **OS:** 4.6.1.250

Also, I'm not dismissing your findings. I believe you are experiencing a problem with the GPS. However, lets see if anyone can duplicate your problem. So far, you're the only one having an issue with it. Others are posting that their GPS works on the 8820 from AT&T.

KaZen · 10-12-2007, 03:17 AM

richard371: I'm sorry I shouldn't take it out on you. You did in fact provide a useful data point reinforcing kdog1176 in stating that it works for some people. I should have been a little more polite in my request for more information. I really appreciate your taking to time to try to help me get to the bottom of this.

JSanders: besides my apology to richard371, I don't see what language needs cleaning up. Everything in my post is something someone here has said to me. I've been dismissed and alternately treated as a liar and an idiot. When yet another person (John Clark) said I didn't know what I was talking about, I got upset. I, unfortunately, took it out on richard371. I'll admit my original post was a rant, but everything since then has been actively, (constructively even) seeking to solve a real problem

John Clark: Thank you for not dismissing my findings. I've had RIM and AT&T tell me the GPS is dependent on the account. Even BoyGeniusReport says the 8820 is "GPS-locked". When you stated that it wasn't, I felt dismissed. I feel I've proven that my GPS is dependent on my account.

John Clark · 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaZen

I've been dismissed and alternately treated as a liar and an idiot. When yet another person (John Clark) said I didn't know what I was talking about, I got upset.

I NEVER said you didn't know what you were talking about. You are ONE person out of many on this forum saying that your 8820 is GPS locked. Other people on THIS forum have said their AT&T 8820's GPS works fine without TeleNav. Until someone else can backup your findings I don't buy it, though I obviously believe you are experiencing a problem.

Quote:

John Clark: Thank you for not dismissing my findings. I've had RIM and AT&T tell me the GPS is dependent on the account. Even BoyGeniusReport says the 8820 is "GPS-locked". When you stated that it wasn't, I felt dismissed. I feel I've proven that my GPS is dependent on my account.

Flip flop. Call me out for saying you don't know what you're talking about and then thank me for not dismissing your findings? Whatever.

Find someone here who can backup what you're saying and you'll have some credibility. Until then you're just someone who can't seem to get the GPS working on his device. I don't always believe what a carrier's CSR says either. Again, many AT&T 8820 users are raving about how great the GPS works with Google, BBMaps, etc.

You keep referring to BGR, however, these early reports turned out to be false.

Again, prove what you say. Find someone else with the same problem. It's been out longer than the 8320 and nobody, but you, is reporting a problem with the GPS on the 8820. I'm not calling you a liar, never have. Just back it up with others with the same problem.

kdog1176 · 10-12-2007, 10:05 AM

KaZen,

In a earlier post, you stated:

"4. My own verification that witout TeleNav Service I *cannot* read the GPS:
Options->Advanced Options->GPS->Refresh GPS *fails* to aquire lat long."

How does it fail? Do you get an error message? Are you outside, away from tall buildings when you attempt to "Refresh GPS"? It may tak some time to serach for satelites.

So far for me, I have been able to use GPS on my 8820 with: Google Maps, BB Maps, and InfoSpace Find IT. Have you been able to install BB Maps (and get the icon to display)? BB Maps is a good application because it has "Find Location" in its menu. After clicking that, you can select "Where I Am", and it will serach for satelites and pinpoint your location.

test54 · 10-12-2007, 10:20 AM

kazen,

JSanders and John Clark are very knowledgeable and trust them over your ATT/Telenav CS. The phone is the same as the 8800 in that they want to push Telenav however many people are the GPS without Telenav. Sometimes people try to overthink these things and just listen to the more experienced people.

KaZen · 10-12-2007, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

GPS is not dependent on the account.

I felt dismissed. I thought you were saying I didn't know what I was talking about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Clark

Also, I'm not dismissing your findings.

I'm giving benefit of the doubt. Obviously I took what you said wrong. So I'm thanking you for not dismissing my findings.

I wasn't trying to "call you out". I was explaining to JSanders why I overreacted.

So far no one has offered any ideas on how to figure out why my device/account are tied to TeleNav. kdog1176 is the only one who has gone beyond 'works for me'. Which is fine. No one owes me help. Honestly, I'm grateful for the forums and the responses I've recieved. I've let my anger and frustration at at&t come out here, on people who are innocent.

Having said all that. The BoyGeniusReport acknowledging the GPS-lock is from Sept 21, not what I would call an "early report":
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/...-down-with-us/

JSanders · 10-12-2007, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaZen

JSanders: besides my apology to richard371, I don't see what language needs cleaning up. Everything in my post is something someone here has said to me. I've been dismissed and alternately treated as a liar and an idiot. When yet another person (John Clark) said I didn't know what I was talking about, I got upset. I, unfortunately, took it out on richard371. I'll admit my original post was a rant, but everything since then has been actively, (constructively even) seeking to solve a real problem

Your apology to richard floats my boat. While I would also prefer you edit the (even slight) insult in that post, if you can live with it, live with it. I am more concerned about keeping this a helpful, open community whose atmosphere breeds an eager-to-assist-attitude and gratitude. I didn't dismiss you as an idiot or liar. Believe me, around here, users don't mince their words that often.

I said it simply at first, "I'm gonna *have* to hear from *other* users before I am convinced" since your statements are stating as fact that ALL 8820s are "crippled" for GPS only to TeleNav subscribption. Yours is so far a one-time report. Basing everything on one-time reports on this board would mean, for example, that we would all still believe that the 8100 can only use a 2GB Micro SC card (since the first report was that it could not). Thank goodness others chimed in with their findings and finally it was determined that is was actually an OS holdback and that the new OSs allowed 4GB.

Now to have a reasonable troubleshooting session with your 8820 is possible. But it HAS to be in a friendly, welcome atmosphere. Who would want to do so otherwise?

JSanders · 10-12-2007, 10:34 AM

So, let's get down to details. If you have posted this, would you again... your OS version, etc., TeleNav version? Anything else?

I don't have the 8820, but we need a user for whom it is working to begin to compare notes with you.

test54 · 10-12-2007, 10:38 AM

and also what 3rd party GPS programs are you attempting to use.

KaZen · 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdog1176

KaZen,

In a earlier post, you stated:

"4. My own verification that witout TeleNav Service I *cannot* read the GPS:
Options->Advanced Options->GPS->Refresh GPS *fails* to aquire lat long."

How does it fail? Do you get an error message? Are you outside, away from tall buildings when you attempt to "Refresh GPS"? It may tak some time to serach for satelites.

It fails by saying "Scanning for Satellites." for several minutes, and then coming back to the old GPS data (the timestamp is still the old timestamp and the lat,long are not updated). I performed all of my tests standing in the exact same spot outside at an intersection where there is as much of the sky visible as possible.

With the TeleNav subscription enabled, TeleNav, Google Maps, BBMaps, and 'Refresh GPS' all function perfectly. Takes about 30-45seconds to lock usually 5 satellites.

Without TeleNav subscription, TeleNav (which still runs amusingly enough) eventually times out saying "GPS signal weak. Find better sky view", BBMaps 'Start GPS Navigation' constantly sits at: "Searching for satellites", Google Maps says "Location signal too weak to pinpoint"

KaZen · 11:43 AM

Vendor: 102

BlackBerry(r) 8820
smartphone (EDGE, WiFi)
v4.2.2.169 (Platform 2.4.0.67)
Cryptographic Kernel v3.8.4.47

I've edited the _vendorID= elements out of BlackBerry.alx, LBS.alx, and one other .alx file I can't remember off the top of my head (platform.alx I think). I only did this step recently My first round of testing was done before this. My second round was after this hoping that I'd unlocked something.

When I bought the phone att gave me a new SIM, copied the contacts from my old phone onto the new SIM and imported those contacts onto my 8820. I've set up my @att.blackberry.com email, and my gmail account. I also set it up to join my 802.11b WiFi network at home.

Other than turning TeleNav on and off a few times that's the history of my 8820.

TeleNav version: 5.1.0.54
GoogleMaps: 1.6.3 #1620
BBMaps: <no version info> Installed when I re-installed BB desktop.

richard371 · 12:40 PM

BlackBerry(r) 8820
smartphone (EDGE, WiFi)
v4.2.2.169 (Platform 2.4.0.67)
Cryptographic Kernel v3.8.4.47

Telenav is installed but I did not activate the service. I am able to use the gps on Bbmaps,google, inforspace just fine. This is an ATT locked unit.

kdog1176 · 10-12-2007, 12:58 PM

Same here. ATT locked unit:

BlackBerry® 8820
smartphone (EDGE, WiFi)
v4.2.2.169 (Platform 2.4.0.67)
Cryptographic Kernel v3.8.4.47

I have used GPS with Google Maps, BB Maps, and InfoSpace Find IT with no problems