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Default 09-26-2007, 11:29 PM

Did you edit the LBS.alx as described in the first post of this thread?

Really this is all for not if you don't have a data plan. With no data plan you won't get any maps. They require a data plan.
   
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Default 09-26-2007, 11:32 PM

oh okay
so theres no way i can use maps or download maps with out getting a data plan because it cost alot :(
   
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Default Worked on 8820 with AT&T - 10-18-2007, 02:21 PM

Brilliant! Thanks a lot. Feels good!
   
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i did this with my 8310 from att and it didnt work.. has anyone successfully done this with their 8310?
   
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Default 10-23-2007, 11:04 PM

You must have missed a step in there somewhere. It works on all the newer BB's from att.
   
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Default 10-24-2007, 12:24 AM

oh nevermind ..i rebooted my BB and now it's there ..the problem now is that i dont see any maps ..i just see diagonal lines ..i chose "Start GPS Navigation" and still nothing ..just a buncha lines ..i have tmobile ..do i have to activate something? or am i just better off with Nav4all?
   
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Options >Advanced Options >TCP:

apn:wap.voicestream.com
username:
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leave username and password blank. Then try it again.
   
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Default 10-25-2007, 06:34 AM

i did that already and it's still the same.. is it because i dont have a data plan with t-mobile? i can subscribe to tmobile's bb unlimited add on for 19.99 but they currently don't support the 8310 and im afraid that if i add the plan, it wont work..
   
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Default 10-26-2007, 12:54 AM

I have Google map, Telenav and Nav4all, all of these apps do not show where I'm located as I drive so when I reach an intersection I have to select continue. With my Nokia N95, it shows where I am as I'm driving and it was free. Kinda disappointed.
   
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Default 10-26-2007, 01:29 AM

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I have Google map, Telenav and Nav4all, all of these apps do not show where I'm located as I drive so when I reach an intersection I have to select continue. With my Nokia N95, it shows where I am as I'm driving and it was free. Kinda disappointed.
Do you have an 8300 or an 8310?

If you have an 8310 go to Options >Advanced Options >GPS and make sure you are getting a GPS signal.

If you have an 8300 then you need a bluetooth GPS puck as there is no built in GPS on the 8300.
   
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i did that already and it's still the same.. is it because i dont have a data plan with t-mobile? i can subscribe to tmobile's bb unlimited add on for 19.99 but they currently don't support the 8310 and im afraid that if i add the plan, it wont work..


nevermind.. i subscribed to bb unlimited add and i was able to download maps. ..thanks
   
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Default 10-31-2007, 09:48 PM

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Neither the 8700 nor the 7290 have GPS integrated.

I know that it is possible to install BBMaps on a 8700 with a Bluetooth GPS, I don't know if you can do it with a 7290

In any case, you won't need the above procedure to install BBMaps on your Blackberry
What does this mean exactly? How could I get GPS to run on my 8700? Thanks for your help!
   
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What does this mean exactly? How could I get GPS to run on my 8700? Thanks for your help!
This thread isn't for GPS. It's for how to unlock the BBMaps program that is already installed on AT&T BB's but is hidden. GPS is another feature that works with BBMaps. Your 8700 doesn't have a GPS receiver integrated with it so you'd need to purchase a bluetooth GPS receiver in order for it to work with BBMaps.
   
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Default 11-01-2007, 10:20 AM

OK I've edited the file and ditched the vendor file... I still don't see my BB maps which I'm bummed about because I like them!

Do I need to reinstall the software? I'm on 4.2.1.79 on a Cingular/AT&T 8800

** EDIT ** The BB Maps aren't even in my application list...

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Default BB Maps on 8820, ATT - 11-06-2007, 02:50 AM

Hi There..I'm a newbie too here. did you ever find a solution? i'm actually faced with the same problem, though I love my 8820.

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Sorry newbie here from the DL site you posted for the OS can I just choose 8800 from AT&T and that will work for my 8820? Also has anyone out there run the unlock on the AT&T 8820?
   
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Default 11-06-2007, 05:53 PM

I have BB Maps now! This forum rules... Thanks for providing all of this excellent info.
   
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Default 11-14-2007, 08:17 AM

I just went to the bb homepage on my phone and downloaded it OTA and it worked w/o deleting any files.
   
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Default 11-21-2007, 10:59 AM

Just upgraded to 4.3 and i do not have a Shared Folder now.

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Just upgraded to 4.3 and i do not have a Shared Folder now.

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Default Fyi - 11-21-2007, 06:44 PM

I just got my 8310 and downloaded Blackberry Maps OTA and it works fine. Nothing needed to be done. Downloaded and it was in the applications folder and working fine.
Yes I am on AT&T.
   
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Default Can't find LBS.alx file - 11-25-2007, 03:38 PM

I recently purchased the 8820 (AT&T w/ BIS data plan; OS v4.2) and am trying to install the BB maps per your instructions. I've installed the Desktop Manager and the OS to my PC. I was able to delete the vendor.xml file but I cannot find the LBS.alx file. I only see the following folders in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\

AppLoader, BBBI drivers, Modem Drivers, RIMDeviceManager and USB Drivers.
I've looked in each of these folders but cannot find any LBS.alx file. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks !
   
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Default 11-25-2007, 06:15 PM

Did you install BOTH files? You need to install the Desktop manager first. Then there is another file to download that is the OS package for the BB. Download and install that file as well. Then you'll have those folders.
   
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Smile Thanks ! - 11-26-2007, 11:37 PM

Apparently, I did not install both files...now they are both installed and I can see the files you are referring to ! Thanks again for your help...much appreciated !
   
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Unhappy Can't get it to work - 12-07-2007, 08:53 AM

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This has been explained many times but is buried in hundreds of pages of posts. Here is a tutorial for "unlocking" BBMaps on AT&T and a few other carrier devices.


Question: The BBMaps icon will not show on my device. I see BlackberryMaps in my application list but can’t find it on my device.

Answer: AT&T and some other European carriers, including Orange, have decided that they make more money selling mapping subscriptions than allowing you access to BBMaps. Here is how to make BBMaps show on your device with 4.2 and higher OS:
  • Make sure you have Desktop Manager installed to your PC. It can be downloaded from here
  • Make sure that the OS is installed to your PC. The OS’s downloads for each carrier can be found here
  • Delete the vendor.xml file located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
  • Find the LBS.alx file located in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.2.1.96_P2.3.0.79. Note: The folder name under Loader Files may differ depending on the OS version installed on your device
  • Open the LBS.alx file with a text editor such as WordPad.
  • Scroll down until you find lines similar to this: (Note: each devices version may have differing lines of code.)
<!-- For 8800 series, hide the icon for Cingular (102), Vodafone Germany (124), Vodafone Austria (137) and all Orange properties. -->
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Colour="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="~102|124|137|119|162|142|183|147|217" series="8800">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_ribbon.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- For non-8800 series, show the icon for all carriers except Vodafone Germany (124), Vodafone Austria (137) and all Orange properties. -->
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Colour="True" Java="1.0" series="8800">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_internal_gps.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_en.cod
</files>
</fileset>
  • Remove all references to “_vendorID=…..” and device codes. Remove the text in bold as shown above and leave the > symbol at the end.
The above code would be changed to the following:
<!-- For 8800 series, hide the icon for Cingular (102), Vodafone Germany (124), Vodafone Austria (137) and all Orange properties. -->
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Colour="True" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_ribbon.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- For non-8800 series, show the icon for all carriers except Vodafone Germany (124), Vodafone Austria (137) and all Orange properties. -->
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Colour="True" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_internal_gps.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_en.cod
</files>
</fileset>

Save the file with the same LBS.alx name.

Again, each devices .alx is slightly different but removing any references to vendor codes and device codes in the lines as above will do the trick.
  • Now plug in the BB, open Desktop Manager and run Application Loader. Make sure BBMaps is checked and continue through to finish the process.
  • BBMaps should now have an icon on your home screen.
Please let me know if there is anything missing from the above steps.

If editing the above makes you nervous or you don't want to attempt it you can download pre-edited .alx file from this link. Simply find your device and OS version number and download the .zip files with the included .alx's. Simply replace your .alx's with the new ones and run Application Loader in Desktop Manager
I tried the steps above, and don't see google maps on my 8300. I see it under options->Advanced Options->Applications (it wasn't there before), but don't see it on my main screen. I removed all the reference to vendor or device in the alx, and installed maps through applications loader, but no luck. Is there anything else I need to check? BTW, the version for blackberry maps showing under advanced options->applications is 1.2.26. Thanks in advance.

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Default 12-11-2007, 06:57 PM

John,
I just realised I could have placed those last two messages to you here. Feel free to post them to this thread. Sorry for any confusion. This is my first time on one of these types of websites and i am not sure of all the protocols yet.
   
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I read somewhere else here that you say there is no GPS in my 8703e. The manual that came with the unit (specific to 8703e) talks about LBS and GPS etc. Bell Mobility also told me that the 911 service uses the internal GPS? I am really confused.
   
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Default 12-11-2007, 07:09 PM

I also found in 'Applications" some thing called LBS-for Location Based Services- the version on my 8703e is 1.0.70. Are there other versions maybe newer ones?
   
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Default 12-13-2007, 04:12 PM

Just Did this procedure on my unlocked 8310 on AT&T and it works like a charm. Thanks!


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Default 12-16-2007, 05:59 PM

I have a AT&T 8310 unlocked. and using t-mobile
which OS do I download?
actually i dont even see BBMaps on my applicatoin list
   
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Default 12-16-2007, 06:02 PM

The BBMaps app is not loaded by default on an AT&T device (regardless of what service you are using.)

You don't need to reinstall the entire OS to the device but you need the OS package (the one that's on your device currently) installed to the PC in order to edit the LBS.alx file so that it will allow you to install BBMaps.

What OS version is on your device now? You can check by going to Options >About.

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thanks for the quick reply.
the OS version is the IMEI?
also which OS package do i download?.the AT&T one or the T-moblie one?

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Default 12-16-2007, 06:18 PM

Sorry, my bad. It should be Options >About (not status.)

You're looking for a number like v4.x.x.xxx
   
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it's v4.2.2.170 (platform 2.5.0.30)
   
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Default 12-16-2007, 06:24 PM

Get it from here:

https://www.blackberry.com/SoftwareD...ient=Rc4cZBaBN

Download it, then run it (by double clicking on it.) Then follow the instructions above in the first post of this thread.
   
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so I get the software for 8310 (TM) ?
   
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Default 12-16-2007, 06:32 PM

Yes. Just download the software for the 8310 from AT&T. It's the same as the version on your device now. Install it and follow the instructions above. If you'll just follow the instructions above you'll get your BBMaps.

Also, you can just download BBMaps directly to your device from http://mobile.blackberry.com

However, this method won't give you the latest version, but it's much easier.
   
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thx for the guidence john clark.
installin now
   
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great i got it to work. somewhat.
still dun have a BB data plan. going to do that now!
   
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