Yes, a BB data plan is required for BBMaps to get the map data. $19.99 with TMo....pretty good deal, really.

My BB Map just disappeared, really weird. The app is still on the BB but the icon is missing even though I have "show all."

Hi
I did all steps. But still disappear. Do I need to insert the sim card ?

The icon should show up for BBMaps regardless of whether a sim card is inserted or not. You must have missed a step in there somewhere.

can it work on the 8300 at&t carrier

Follow my instructions in the first post of this thread. AT&T is exactly what I wrote this post for.

i got bb maps to work but i dont know what i did my web browser is missing! can anyone help?

go to options > advanced > host routing table > menu > register now

if that doesnt work, do a battery pull with the device on. leave it out for 30 sec, and then put it back in

awesome it LIVES, thank you that saved some trouble

glad you got it back working

I have followed the procedure described by John Clark and the maps show up in my applications list (Under Settings>Options), but I don't find the icon. I did a download through the Blackberry site, as also described somewhere, and that seemed to work. However, when I use my AppsLoader again, the Maps disappears. I've tried Show All and that doesn't do anything. I'm reinstalling via the device from the Blackberry site and it detects an already existing application, but I don't see it anywhere.

Incidentally, I don't see any applications that I try to bring in via AppsLoader?

Hi John:

Very good directions. Worked. I would like to understand what the vendor.xml file does! I figured that the LBS controls if the maps icon is displayed in the ribbon.

And the last question: if I try to enable my BlueTooth GPS inside BBmaps, I get an uncaught exception that tells me to consult my wireless provider. I do not know if this is also controlled by another xml file or is this done over the air with the provider. This all used to work fine on my pearl (same SIM and plans).

Thanks for any info...

The vendor.xml file only allows other carrier's OS's to be loaded on your device. It does nothing more.

I don't know why you're getting the error when enabling your BT gps. If it continues after a battery pull, you might consider upgrading your OS if it's not at the latest. If it's up to date, then you may want to wipe and reinstall.

same here. Looks like AT&T is somehow blocking now. I running 4.2.2.166.

hello great forum here!

i have a question:

someone said that i need a data plan to download the maps.

why? we have wi-fi on our 8820, can we not download the maps via wi-fi?

by the way, my gps is not showing any coordinates, but BBmaps is ok

You need a Data Plan for BB Maps to work, even on WiFi.

Here is a thread all about what you can/can't do on WiFi:
http://www.blackberryforums.com/wifi...-can-t-do.html

I followed the instructions, I am in the application loader wizard and the next prompt says:

Press Finish to start the loading process with the options summarized below, or press the Adavanced button to select additional loading options.

This is what's in the box below the prompt:

Unrecognized modules that will be removed:
net_rim_bb_lbs
net_rim_bb_lbs_api
net_rim_bb_lbs_internal_gps
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_en

My question is, what button do I select? The only reason I am asking before I select anyrhing is because the line about the internal gps makes me wonder if it will remove the internal gps capabilities.

Please help! Thanx so much!

I think instructions are oudated they no longer work on 8110 as that line of coding does not exist

Im running 4.2.2.166, same problem here. I just read that it will be good to move to the previous version. Blackberry start blocking GPS since 4.2.2.166. I even call At&t and they told me to call RIM. I'm Moving back to the previous version.

8300 With Garmin 10 for Blackberry
4.2.2.166 At&t Release ( sucks )

Hey John, first off I just want to say thanks for posting such a useful thread up for people to try out.

I have loaded the beta 4.5.0.18 onto my Blackberry Curve 8310 for AT&T. When I open the LBS.axl file, I don't see any of the vendor ID's and such that you have posted. All that comes up is a bunch of different language codes.
</language>
<directory SystemSize="normal">Java</directory>
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Colour="True" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs.cod
net_rim_bb_lbs_api.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_en.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Catalan files -->
<fileset langid="0x0003" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_ca.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Czech files -->
<fileset langid="0x0005" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_cs.cod
</files>
</fileset>

^ this is a just a small portion of what the bottom half of the LBS.axl file looks like. If you have any ideas or suggestions please let me know thanks.

I think on the new OS the application is controlled by a Service Book which is going to make it very difficult. If you look for the the thread on making Yahoo Messenger work on ATT it will be that kind of process to get it loaded.

I think everyone should be aware that making changes to the LBS.alx file will cause unwanted reactions from the address book..

My address book was working fine prior to this change. That is, I could edit an address book entry on my 8820, click the ball, then save.. The Edit window would close and the addresses would display.

After I made the change to the LBS.alx file, I tried to edit a contact. When I clicked the ball, then save, I got the infamous "Address Updated Externally" dialog

I think this has something to do with the fact that changing the LBS.alx file installs net_rim_bb_lbs_internal_gps.cod on the phone.

I think this is what is causing the error "Address Updated Externally."

Like I said, it was not doing this prior to changing the LBS.alx file and I did not install any other software.

Welcome to BBF. I doubt that it's t he edit to the LBS.alx file causing this. More likely it's an issue with connecting it to the Desktop Manager and any sync settings that might have inadvertantly got added or changed.

I would tend to agree with you. However, I spent an hour on the phone with BB tech support.. We wiped the device - including all apps - and installed the OS from scratch. After this was completed I synced my addresses, etc.

I was able to edit numerous addresses from my device with no problems. Next, and without installing any new apps, I changed the LBS.alx file and re-synced.

the BBMaps icon appeared, but, when attempted to edit an address and save, I received the "Address updated externally" message.

I wonder if it has to do with the "map it" or "drive it" options in the address book. I'm grasping at straws here, though. I don't have BBMaps anymore but I think those were options with BBMaps installed.

Interesting.. I'll have to go through the process again tomorrow to see if this is surely the issue: changing the .alx file

so i am paying 10 bux a month for the "GPS" service from ATT. does BBmaps eliminate the need to spend the extra 10 bux?

how does it compare to telenav?

BBMaps is different than TeleNav. Telenav gives you voice prompted turn by turn directions. BBMaps has not voice prompts and just gives you a route on a map. Also, AT&T doesn't support BBMaps but you can easily make it work on the 8310 if you are using OS 4.2.

No, you are paying $9.99/month for TeleNav (AT&T Nav).

BBMaps is quite difficult to use lately as it now required a Service Book to load the application and enable the mapping.

You might be better off with GoogleMaps, LiveSearch or Nav4All, AmazeGPS, etc., all with info in this GPS section.

Hi ,

Does this mean getting BB Maps on blackberry 8110 is difficult, as it is running 4.3 OS ? Does anybody got the BBMaps on 8110 ?

Regards

Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)

Check the Beta You Than Me forum stikys. There is a thread there that explains how to get BB Maps.

Hi,

im having troubles editing the LBS file in wordpad. i get a message back saying.
access to C:\Program Files\common files\research in motion\shared\loader files\8310-v4.5.0.52_P2.7.0.66\LBS.alx was denied.
I tried downloading one of the files that are already done but there isnt a file supporting my OS which is an 8310 with telstra.

hope you can help,

thanks.

I have a bold on AT&T with desktop manager 4.7. I dont see the Shared directory within the research in motion folder.

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Common

The common folder doesn't exist.

I have AppLoader, Auto Update, BBBI Drivers, BBWebSLLauncher, Modem Drivers, RIMDEviceManager, and USB Drivers.

I am on bold and have the mps logo but when i click on it " Maps has been disabled " anybody can help thankssssss

I talked to both ATT and RIM about this. ATT&T originally denied that they disabled BB Maps, which is untrue. They cripple your OS by not letting you use that application, and encourage you to use their fee based alternative.

RIM concedes this is true, and admit while they're not happy about it, as they feel they've made a nice map application, there is nothing they, or we, can do. Carriers are allowed to modify certain parts of the OS, like disabling BB Maps. In fact, if you read the IT white paper on BB Maps, it states that an IT dept. has this capability to enable or disable at their choosing.

This affects developers also, who have written applications that are intended to work with Blackberry Maps in some way, and now find their apps will not function. If you update OS 4.2 to OS 4.5, and have BB Maps, is is probably the old version of Maps, 1.2, not version 4.5.

Blackberrys acquired from ATT should come encased in a prophylactic to prevent carrier violation.

Will this BB Os below work to get BB Maps On my Black Berry 8310. Also , 8310 download 4.5.0 already seems to have the threads removed , is that correct?


<loader version="1.0">
<application id="net.rim.java.maps">
<name>BlackBerry Maps</name>
<description>Mapping Application for BlackBerry</description>
<version>1.2.26</version>
<vendor>Research In Motion</vendor>
<copyright>Copyright (c) 2005-2007 Research In Motion</copyright>
<directory SystemSize="normal">Java</directory>
<!-- French descriptions -->
<language langid="0x000c">
<name>Cartes</name>
<description>Cartes</description>
</language>
<!-- German descriptions -->
<language langid="0x0007">
<name>Zuordnungen</name>
<description>Zuordnungen</description>
</language>
<!-- Italian descriptions -->
<language langid="0x0010">
<name>Mappe</name>
<description>Mappe</description>
</language>
<!-- Spanish descriptions -->
<language langid="0x000a">
<name>Mapas</name>
<description>Mapas</description>
</language>
<!-- Hungarian descriptions -->
<language langid="0x000E">
<name>T\u00e9rk\u00e9pek</name>
<description>T\u00e9rk\u00e9pek</description>
</language>
<!-- Czech descriptions -->
<language langid="0x0005">
<name>Mapy</name>
<description>Mapy</description>
</language>
<!-- Polish descriptions -->
<language langid="0x0015">
<name>Mapy</name>
<description>Mapy</description>
</language>
<!-- Chinese (Simplified) descriptions -->
<language langid="0x0804">
<name>&#x5730;&#x56fe;</name>
<description>&#x5730;&#x56fe;</description>
</language>
<!--Catalan language description text -->
<language langid="0x0003">
<name>Mapes</name>
<description>Mapes</description>
</language>
<!--Dutch language description text -->
<language langid="0x0013">
<name>Kaarten</name>
<description>Kaarten</description>
</language>
<!--Brazilian Portugese language description text -->
<language langid="0x0416">
<name>Mapas</name>
<description>Mapas</description>
</language>
<!--Tr language description text -->
<language langid="0x001F">
<name>Haritalar</name>
<description>Haritalar</description>
</language>
<!--Arabic language description text -->
<language langid="0x0001">
<name>&#x062e;&#x0631;&#x0627;&#x0626;&#x0637; BlackBerry</name>
<description>&#x062a;&#x0639;&#x064a;&#x064a;&#x06 46; &#x0627;&#x0644;&#x062a;&#x0637;&#x0628;&#x064a;&# x0642;&#x0627;&#x062a; &#x0644;&#x0640; BlackBerry</description>
</language>
<!--Hebrew language description text -->
<language langid="0x000d">
<name>&#x05de;&#x05e4;&#x05d5;&#x05ea; BlackBerry</name>
<description>&#x05d9;&#x05d9;&#x05e9;&#x05d5;&#x05 dd; &#x05de;&#x05d9;&#x05e4;&#x05d5;&#x05d9; &#x05e2;&#x05d1;&#x05d5;&#x05e8; BlackBerry</description>
</language>
<!--Japanese language description text -->
<language langid="0x0011">
<name>BlackBerry &#x5730;&#x56f3;</name>
<description>BlackBerry &#x306e;&#x30de;&#x30c3;&#x30d4;&#x30f3;&#x30b0;&# x30a2;&#x30d7;&#x30ea;&#x30b1;&#x30fc;&#x30b7;&#x3 0e7;&#x30f3;</description>
</language>
<!--Russian language description text -->
<language langid="0x0019">
<name>&#x041a;&#x0430;&#x0440;&#x0442;&#x044b; BlackBerry</name>
<description>&#x041f;&#x0440;&#x0438;&#x043b;&#x04 3e;&#x0436;&#x0435;&#x043d;&#x0438;&#x044f; &#x0434;&#x043b;&#x044f; &#x0440;&#x0430;&#x0431;&#x043e;&#x0442;&#x044b ; &#x0441; &#x043a;&#x0430;&#x0440;&#x0442;&#x0430;&#x043c;&# x0438; &#x0434;&#x043b;&#x044f; BlackBerry</description>
</language>
<!--Chinese (Traditional) language description text -->
<language langid="0x0404">
<name>BlackBerry Maps</name>
<description>&#x9069;&#x7528; BlackBerry &#x7684;&#x7e6a;&#x5716;&#x61c9;&#x7528;&#x7a0b;&# x5f0f;</description>
</language>
<!--Korean language description text -->
<language langid="0x0012">
<name>BlackBerry Maps</name>
<description>BlackBerry&#xc758; &#xb9e4;&#xd551; &#xc751;&#xc6a9; &#xd504;&#xb85c;&#xadf8;&#xb7a8;</description>
</language>
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Colour="True" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs.cod
net_rim_bb_lbs_api.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- For 8800 series, hide the icon for AT&T (102), Vodafone Germany (124), Vodafone Austria (137) and all Orange properties, including Amena (Orange Spain - 175). -->
<!-- For non-8800 series, show the icon for all carriers except AT&T (102), Vodafone Germany (124), Vodafone Austria (137) and all Orange properties, including Amena (Orange Spain - 175). -->
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<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_ribbon.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<fileset SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_en.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Catalan files -->
<fileset langid="0x0003" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_ca.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Czech files -->
<fileset langid="0x0005" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_cs.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- German files -->
<fileset langid="0x0007" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_de.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Spanish files -->
<fileset langid="0x000a" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_es.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- French files -->
<fileset langid="0x000c" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_fr.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Hungarian files -->
<fileset langid="0x000e" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_hu.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Italian files -->
<fileset langid="0x0010" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_it.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Dutch files -->
<fileset langid="0x0013" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_nl.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Polish files -->
<fileset langid="0x015" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_pl.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Brazilian Portugese files -->
<fileset langid="0x0416" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_pt_br.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Turkish files -->
<fileset langid="0x001F" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_tr.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Simplified Chinese files -->
<fileset langid="0x804" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0" Memory="Large">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_zh_cn.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Hebrew files -->
<fileset langid="0x000d" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0" Memory="Large">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_he.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Arabic files -->
<fileset langid="0x0001" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0" Memory="Large">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_ar.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Russian files -->
<fileset langid="0x0019" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0" Memory="Large">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_ru.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Traditional Chinese files -->
<fileset langid="0x0404" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0" Memory="Large">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_zh_tw.cod
</files>
</fileset>
<!-- Japanese files -->
<fileset langid="0x0011" SystemSize="normal" Java="1.0" Memory="Large">
<files>
net_rim_bb_lbs_resource_ja.cod
</files>
</fileset>
</application>
</loader>

I cant seem to find the lines explained in the first post in my LBS.alx file. I'm on 4.6.1.168 OS. Anyone care to tell me why?

I just updated the first post. This method doesn't work on OS 4.3 and higher devices as RIM fundamentally changed how BBMaps works.

Oh, ok. Now I understand why on mine doesn't work.

So does that mean that if you have OS 4.3 and higher you cannot get BB Maps to work? I loved having BB Maps before I upgraded the OS (using the outstanding work-around found on this website) -- but I don't want to downgrade the OS just to get it back. I've tried everything else suggested on this site to try to get BB Maps to work, but to no avail. There must be some way to foil AT&T and re-gain access to RIM's great BB Maps program, right?!