Treo vs. Blackberry

[akosnitzky]

I know very little about the treo but it seems that they are a bit ahead of the bb in certain areas. I was inquiring what the pros and cons were of the treo as it relates to the blackberry.

[JSanders]

What areas does it seem they are ahead in?

[Dawg]

Originally Posted by JSanders

What areas does it seem they are ahead in?

inquiring minds want to know

[akosnitzky]

Let me pose the question differently
What am I missing by not having a Treo?
What would I lose if I dumped the BB?

[JSanders]

Us.

But then, I don't know your goals.

[Dawg]

youll lose
Push email.
Reliable Security
A reliable OS (non Beta)
Not having to reboot constantly

Its been a while since I carried one but these are the problems I know some of my friends have.

[akosnitzky]

I am not abandoning ship. I have a colleague that is going to try the Treo and I dont know what made it so special.

[JSanders]

BBs don't have that little tit that pokes out at the top corner.

What is that? a Geek flag that says, "HEY, I;m with Stupid!"

[hnsimpson]

Wirelessly posted (8310 AT&T)

My favorite features of my 2 Treos were:
Constantly requiring a soft reset
Keyboard lag

-simpson

/other than that, they were fine

[akosnitzky]

Does the Palm Centro apply to this discussion?

[audit]

THE ONLY Good thing about the Treo is the threaded SMS.

[davidlleroy]

Wirelessly posted

The treo was extremely slow to respond. There is a definite lag if you try to move at a quick pace between functions. The multiple resets every other hour always seemed to annoy me. I really can't think of one thing where a treo would have an advantage over a BB device.

[ArgonNJ]

As a former Treo 700P owner, I can tell you the BB is far superior in just about every way. Poor signal, random reboots and sluggish performance were all feature of the Treo. Not to mention the design is as old and tired as the Palm OS it runs. The Win Mobile models aren't much better since they run WM, which has its own issues.

[ndub33]

Treo's are like Ford Pintos...popular in their time, but visibly outclassed in the present.

[akosnitzky]

I had a Palm Pilot before wireless handhelds existed. My only experiences have been with bb's so its good to get a different perspective.

[rachamphetamine]

Palm Pilots are neat. The Treo-s (couldn't tell you the model number to save my life) that my aunt and uncle have... are not. Laggy, easy to crash.. the touch screen is neat for about 3 seconds until you feel like you might put a fingernail/the stylus through your screen. I agree with audit - the only good part was the threaded SMS function.

[pshift]

Dawg said it best. I was about to trade up my T|X for a Treo 755P but I checked out the 8330. The BB deal-closer for me (in addition to the other BB advantages) was being able to import 400+ contacts and appointments from my Palm Desktop to the BB.

Palm does have 1 advantage. They have over 20,000+ software titles available since it is a more mature (old) OS and has been out there a lot longer. It's a tired OS with few updates, many promises (broken) by the Palm CEO, late devices to market, being outclassed by BB, WM and Symbian, and the list goes on and on. Palm is now considered by many to be a 'legacy device', to include their upcoming Treo 800W which STILL does not have the features that the Palm faithful have been demanding for many years.

The Palm folks are tired of being left in the dust and are abandoning Palm for other pastures. I, for one, like it here.

[CanuckBB]

Originally Posted by ndub33

Treo's are like Ford Pintos...popular in their time, but visibly outclassed in the present.

Do they also blow up when you hit them in the tuchis?

[ndub33]

Heh heh...don't know, but I would be willing to try this out, in the interest of scientific research.

[MobileDeveloper]

I slighly prefer Palm more

It has Touch Sensitive screen

Also , it is easier to Program for Palm

Advntages of BB are mainly superficial

[davidlleroy]

Originally Posted by MobileDeveloper

I slighly prefer Palm more

It has Touch Sensitive screen

Also , it is easier to Program for Palm

Advntages of BB are mainly superficial

What BB advantages are you refering to that are superficial?

The reliable email or the not having to reboot every other hour?

[drgarth27]

So I've used many different devices over the years including first gen Palm Pilot's and Treo's (both a 650 & a 680).

The Good . . .

As mentioned many software options and the touch screen was convenient as I transitioned from the Pocket PC world where touch and stylus were everything.

SMS threaded conversation

The QWERTY keyboard is nice and solid.

Easy access SD Slot

The 680 came with a full version of Docs to Go

The Bad . . .

Many many many many resets . . . oh has that been mentioned?

Activesync- just terrible.

The Ugly . . .

The units themselves- big, heavy and bulky- hasn't improved with the 680 but maybe with the centro this will be improved.

Resets, dropped calls, speaker issues, did I mention resets?

Activesync- sorry had to mention it again!

Wow out of a nostalgic moment I went and got my old 650 to play with it . . . yuck! I love my 8310!

[vlalra]

Originally Posted by akosnitzky

I know very little about the treo but it seems that they are a bit ahead of the bb in certain areas. I was inquiring what the pros and cons were of the treo as it relates to the blackberry.

Well take this from an ex-Treo owner. My wife had one for years. She had the 600, 650 and the 750. I had the 680. I hated that we always had to do battry pulls and when you had 3rd party software, and things started to lock up, you call palm and they say you have to uninstall everything. The software is just not stable. i love the palm, just not the treo.

Since I have gone to blackberry, it has been the best thing. We now own 3 8310's. My wife, son and i. As soon as my next two upgrades are available I will be getting 2 more totaling 5 all on my plan. I have never had to pull the battery and I am always putting on software trying and removing what I don't like. BB is great and much farther than palm in the data phones.

[avionicsman]

Originally Posted by drgarth27

So I've used many different devices over the years including first gen Palm Pilot's and Treo's (both a 650 & a 680).

The Good . . .

As mentioned many software options and the touch screen was convenient as I transitioned from the Pocket PC world where touch and stylus were everything.

SMS threaded conversation

The QWERTY keyboard is nice and solid.

Easy access SD Slot

The 680 came with a full version of Docs to Go

The Bad . . .

Many many many many resets . . . oh has that been mentioned?

Activesync- just terrible.

The Ugly . . .

The units themselves- big, heavy and bulky- hasn't improved with the 680 but maybe with the centro this will be improved.

Resets, dropped calls, speaker issues, did I mention resets?

Activesync- sorry had to mention it again!

Wow out of a nostalgic moment I went and got my old 650 to play with it . . . yuck! I love my 8310!

Now this was my wifes phone before I conviced her to get the 8130 like mine. She hated the size of it as well. Most annoying part was the touch screen was always active when you where talking to someone. I think she took about 20 pictures or started playing some game while she was talking to customers.