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1 million 3G iphones sold in one weekend -
07-14-2008, 11:06 AM
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07-14-2008, 11:09 AM
Numbers dont really concern me with total sales. I want to see NET adds. This wont be available for quite some time. (next quarterly report of course). That will be the true test. Sheer volume though, dont think a mobile device has done this in a weekend ever. Kudos to Apple for that.
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07-14-2008, 11:10 AM
How many of those 1 million ever got updated and registered?
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07-14-2008, 11:18 AM
That is impressive
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07-14-2008, 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSanders
How many of those 1 million ever got updated and registered?
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And how many simply got returned?
Glitches hamper iPhone launch - CNN.com
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07-14-2008, 11:22 AM
it is impressive but i actually think more people stayed out of the lines this time. I want to see the numbers in the first month really.
There were lots of activation troubles but i doubt that hurt them as much as the lack of inventory at most of the stores.
Also it will be interesting to see the overseas numbers for the 20 countries after the first month.
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07-14-2008, 11:27 AM
Its a good push for Apple, but ill stick to my BlackBerry.
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07-14-2008, 11:55 AM
I actually attended a hiring event last night. (going back to school full time so my options are limited to retail.) The store manager told me they had 350 people lined up outside the store in the mall. Another interesting fact is apple opens up a store every 9 days. I do think apple might pull a star bucks and over saturate the market with these stores popping up that fast. 1 Million unit sold in a weekend is impressive and I think you will see a good mix of new adds and upgrades I think they could have made more money on handsets and data plans if there were no US exclusive IMO.
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07-14-2008, 11:09 AM
If they would keep selling a million iPhones every two days I would start to worry. They simply wont. BB devices are still increasing steadily.(isn't it above 15 million worldwide already?). Let's wait and see how the Bold, Javelin, Kickstart and Thunder will do. 
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07-14-2008, 11:09 AM
16+mil BlackBerry users. Adding over 2.2million NEW BB users per quarter.
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07-14-2008, 11:16 AM
That is over 20 Million at the start of 2009!!
And again ask that same questions : "And how many simply got returned?" 
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07-14-2008, 11:19 AM
How many BlackBerry devices? Or iPhone 3Gs? BlackBerry devices still sit below 3% return rate worldwide, and those numbers are net additions.
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07-14-2008, 11:38 AM
The numbers speak for themselves. Think what will happen when the Bold arrives. A lot of businesses have already ordered them to replace their current active devices.
Apple really does a good job marketing the iPhone. But like it has been said before. Are the numbers really showing their success? I am not losing any sleep over it.

Thumbs are the most important organs man has. Not those "others" like one might think.
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07-14-2008, 11:47 AM
You have to remember the number are not comparable because blackberry devices are offered on all carriers were Iphone is only offered on ATT in the US. So the numbers are in Rim's favor. This is through no fault of Rim but it is still a fact. I wont get an Iphone just because its ATT and i am sure others feel the same way.
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07-14-2008, 11:52 AM
I read 6 million iphones were out there before the 3G release, I still think they will be at or above RIM by the end of the year. It is tougher however as Sith says to keep track of Apple's numbers because they are not reporting to a centralized server. Still I think sales numbers will be above RIM. If I'm wrong come January then so be it but with 21 countries buying them now and another 40-45 before the end of the year I think they will move a ton of units.
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07-14-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice
16+mil BlackBerry users. Adding over 2.2million NEW BB users per quarter.
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and "USERS" is the key word.
That means people actually using them. That number is based of BIS and BES right accounts?
Device being sold is one thing. But people actually using them! I think thats what counts.
And the return rate on blackberry like Sith said is very low. I believe cellphone devices out there are anywhere from 17%-54% depending what phone. PDA's being the highest.
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07-14-2008, 12:51 PM
There's a difference between BlackBerry's total subscriber base and the number of iPhones sold. Honestly, there aren't 7 million active iPhone users.
*EDIT: What BallHawk said... 
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move.
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07-14-2008, 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSanders
How many of those 1 million ever got updated and registered?
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35 at last count! ;)
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07-14-2008, 08:53 PM
Those are impressive numbers. Nice job Apple. I just can't decide between the iPhone and Blackberry. I think the Thunder will definitely be some competition. I think I might like BB better though. I heard some iPhone 3G's had a yellowish tint on the screen. Blackberry is very nice though.
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07-14-2008, 08:57 PM
sold 1 millioon had 250 thousand returned lol
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07-15-2008, 12:32 AM
In addition to 1,000,000 iPhones sold in just a single weekend, Apple also sold and distributed 10,000,000 applications through the itunes store. Developers are no doubt very happy with the return and the interest.
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07-15-2008, 06:54 AM
the majority of 3G iPhone activations at the location I worked were upgrdes!!! many moving from the first iPhone to the new. There were a fair share of new lines of service as well but most were upgrades
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07-15-2008, 08:09 AM
that makes sense as the people who are rushing out to get them are really the die hard fans. The new people will tend to wait and not deal with lines or lack of inventory.
As for the numbers, you will never get a current user number for apple simply because they are not controlled like BB. So the best that you can do is look for sales / returns, however those numbers usually only come out in quarterly reports so we have to wait.
I agree Alex the App store has been big and the apps are still getting released every day. So far I'm using Pandora / AIM / twitterific / HoldEm alot. Pandora being the best one for me.
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07-15-2008, 08:11 AM
.....and 999,999 weren't able to be activated 
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07-15-2008, 11:01 AM
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." - unknown
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07-15-2008, 11:08 AM
Interesting to see the "Old Phone" has a 6% move from a berry to the iPhone. I would love to see a model breakdown of that 6% (just curious, not to prove any point).
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07-15-2008, 11:10 AM
The move rate is very low from BlackBerry. Its about on par with last year. The most interesting figure for me would be the "New Features" reason for purchasing. 3G BlackBerry will almost have the same response i would guess.
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07-15-2008, 11:11 AM
Sith you are right about Moto getting hurt by the iphone. less this year but that might be because their are fewer Motos customers out there to convert, same with Palm.
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07-15-2008, 11:13 AM
Granted this survey needs to be taken very lightly. 283 people is anything but a scientific result out of over 1million.
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07-15-2008, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shaun27612
Interesting to see the "Old Phone" has a 6% move from a berry to the iPhone. I would love to see a model breakdown of that 6% (just curious, not to prove any point).
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I switched from the 8310.
Alex
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07-15-2008, 11:17 AM
Also a carrier breakdown would be very interesting. I would say AT&T wont notice that much of a boost in customers this time. Not anywhere close to what they saw last time.
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07-15-2008, 11:35 AM
so I just heard that we shouldn't expect an iphones in our store until next week. They want to fill all of the direct fulfillment orders before the put the phones back in store
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07-15-2008, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice
Also a carrier breakdown would be very interesting. I would say AT&T wont notice that much of a boost in customers this time. Not anywhere close to what they saw last time.
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While not a boost in customers, they will see a boost in rate fees as the 3G plan is $15 more then the old iphone rate plan. [assuming the 200 sms package]
-->BB 7130e-->Palm 700P-->BB 8830-->iphone-->BB 8310-->BB 9000--> iphone 3GS
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07-15-2008, 11:52 AM
Oh yes, the revenue will be there most definitely. that's $10mil to $15mil extra a month. Not bad pocket change.
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07-15-2008, 12:38 PM
PC World - iPhone 3G Torture Tests
just for the fun of it. it ends badly for the iphone 3G, but for normal use it holds up well.
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07-15-2008, 01:43 PM
so where does the iphone rank in returns?
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07-15-2008, 04:06 PM
Give it some time. People got tired/bored of the original Iphone and moved on. I can't see why the 3g Iphone won't follow the same path. In my opinion, blackberries are "THE" smartphones only worthy of being called smartphones, with exception to maybe Palms. They've been around for a loooong time and very very trustworthy as far as performance. I'd pick the push email of a BB over the safari browser anyday. Having an iphone browser is still not as productive as having your laptop. As a business-user, tethering is a HUGE plus for me and iphone can't even do that.
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07-15-2008, 08:28 PM
or cut copy and paste which a smart phone should be able to do
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07-15-2008, 10:19 PM
that's really not that big of a number considering if you compare it to last year 240k only 1 carrier vs what 22 countries launch and only 4x the original launch numbers? i do like how they omitted how wider the market is for the 3g phone. yet it took 2 days to get to 1 million.
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07-16-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by teamcrn
You have to remember the number are not comparable because blackberry devices are offered on all carriers were Iphone is only offered on ATT in the US. So the numbers are in Rim's favor. This is through no fault of Rim but it is still a fact. I wont get an Iphone just because its ATT and i am sure others feel the same way.
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Yep, verizon has the best service in my experiences. I will not switch to AT&T for the iphone, simply because it is too much of a hassle.
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