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08-11-2008, 01:30 PM
Considering moving back to the iPhone 3G. I know, I know. I will miss the keyboard, but the apps I've seen and played with are simply unbeatable. 3G, GPS (speedier than the BB), and the accelerometer application (I race) are amazing. (I still have my 1G I'm going to sell and offset lots of these costs, and probably unlock my BB too before unloading that as well.)
OK, so the questions from your traitor:
What happens to the plans? Does the iPhone plan just get reset to the two-year from the start of activation, etc. (obviously change back to the iPhone data within our family plan)?
Thanks.
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08-11-2008, 01:33 PM
You may be able to get a quicker answer by contacting AT&T directly.
Dave
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08-11-2008, 01:36 PM
With ATT you can change your plan on the fly without having to commit to a new contract period (i.e. your stay within your current contract window.)
The only stipulation with changing plans with ATT is that they "claim" you will lose your accumulated rollover minutes IF you switch to a lower minute voice plan. I have done so twice and so far I they have failed to purge my rollover minutes 
Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else use it, and get a new one every six months.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 01:38 PM
Actually, you're not changing your plan at all. The "plan" they care about is the voice plan. They will need to change the data plan from BB to iPhone, but the voice will stay the same (unless you decide to change that too).
Illegitimus non carborundum
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08-11-2008, 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nosidam
Actually, you're not changing your plan at all...
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Yeah what he said  
Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else use it, and get a new one every six months.
Clifford Stoll
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08-11-2008, 01:45 PM
What about the Internet and Email add on, or don't you have this ?
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08-11-2008, 01:48 PM
Moved to handheld forum.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 02:17 PM
Thanks, everyone.
Quote:
Originally Posted by christm
What about the Internet and Email add on, or don't you have this ?
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Are you talking about the BB plan? I don't know... it would probably be just switched over to the iPhone (+$) data plan.
So, to summarize: walk into Apple store, activate iPhone ( what happens here?) walk out, Blackberry is no longer usable?
yeah?
The other win for me I forgot to mention is work's Exchange server support on the iPhone is really sweet and seamless (wirelessssss!!!!), according to some workmates (At work, in order to get this to function requires all kinds of manager approval and BS, forms, etc. for the BlackBerry).
Thanks, all.
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BlackBerry Master
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08-11-2008, 02:41 PM
I was under the impression that to get the iPhone 3G you would need a new 2 year contract. so I think you will be reupped for 2 years. They will switch you to the $30 data plan and you will have to add on sms since they are not included in data plan.
Yeah if you go to apple store they will activate iphone there and I think they will kill your existing account as well, so yeah BB will no longer be active.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 02:47 PM
OK, thanks. Now to get the 1G on teh eBray...
I'll probably be back with a Bold... :D
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BlackBerry Master
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08-11-2008, 03:02 PM
I'm putting my 1G on ebay this week as well. 3G will be on order soon, no bold for me
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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08-11-2008, 04:05 PM
Really. Are you unlocking it? Does it really add value to do so; I mean the instructions are pretty easy. I also don't know about the legality of AT&T and Apple coming after you after the fact. Thoughts?
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08-11-2008, 04:15 PM
ATT nor Apple have gone after anyone for unlocking the iPhone.
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08-11-2008, 04:29 PM
So you unlocked yours?
Seems so easy.
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BlackBerry Master
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08-11-2008, 04:39 PM
i never unlocked mine, jailbroke it twice but never had the need for unlock. I will unlock before I sell it though, atleast thats the plan, have a friend who wants to buy it and doesn't care about unlock. iphone1 still sells for good money.
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08-11-2008, 05:52 PM
You mean sells good without the unlock?
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08-11-2008, 07:25 PM
yeah sells well either way, but i think there is more buyers for the unlocked ones.
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08-11-2008, 09:44 PM
the only time you lose rollover minutes, either moving up or down, is if your rollover minutes is greater than the package you are moving to. If you have 1000 rollover minutes and you are on the 1400 package. you will lose 300 of those rollover if you switch to the 700 package, but will keep all if you move to the 2100 package.
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08-14-2008, 03:20 PM
Hey folks, what about the pricing? Why is there a larger cost associated with the online (Premier ordering), and what's the procedure to get the lower pricing (given my situation of iPhone --> Curve --> new iPhone?)
Thanks again!
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08-15-2008, 10:51 AM
i don't get what your asking, its $199 & $299 with new contract.
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08-15-2008, 01:24 PM
Specifically, I already have a BB, and reports on other forums and some discussion leads me to believe that getting a new iPhone will actually cost me $399 & $499 (it shows up that way in my Premier account). It would've been nice to save some money; but I could walk in and find out, certainly. After the original iPhone sells, of course!
I just love the iPhone applications!
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08-15-2008, 01:40 PM
"You do not meet the requirements for an upgrade at a discounted equipment price. However, you may still purchase a phone/device at the full price. Our records indicate that you will be eligible for an upgrade at a discounted price on Jan 4, 2010."
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BlackBerry Master
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08-15-2008, 02:10 PM
I thought the iphone was an exception to that rule about eligibility, just go in and see. I think you will get the good price. Apps are great, new one today is "simplify media" - allows me to stream all my itunes media (and friends) to my iphone. And its free for first 100k downloads. works well too, even with 3200k songs in iTunes. oh and even works over EDGE.
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." - unknown
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08-15-2008, 02:16 PM
3G calling issues (hopefully to be addressed in a software update) and a few have noticed some battery life issues.
You have to give the bad with the good......
Apps are great. How would I survive with Magic 8 Ball and Phonesaber.
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08-15-2008, 02:23 PM
lol phonesaber, I heard they pulled it because George Lucas said is was not licensed. So his company is putting out a licensed phonesaber app now.
The 3G issues are out there I do see alot of evidence to them, "Part of the role of the Infineon chip is to check whether there's enough 3G bandwidth available in a given area. If 3G isn't available or there isn't enough bandwidth, the iPhone will be shifted to a slower network. One source says Apple programmed the Infineon chip to demand a more powerful 3G signal than the iPhone really requires. So if too many people try to make a call or go on the Internet in a given area, some of the devices will decide there's insufficient power and switch to the slower network—even if there is enough 3G bandwidth available."
from macrumors. the theory fits because apparently the issues happen in the busiest 3G areas. Hopefully a update will fix it, especially since I want to order mine next week.
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08-15-2008, 02:50 PM
Still a great platform; they'll work the bugs out I'm sure.
Which do you all recommend, the AT&T store or Apple Store?
The above quote was from the Premier site, by the way.
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08-15-2008, 03:18 PM
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08-15-2008, 04:23 PM
well that post refers to the situation where you borrow and iphone and activate it using your sim so you become and existing iphone user. The existing iphone users are all eligible for the 199/299 pricing. I would recommend going to ATT store because Apple store will not be as good at accessing your account. If you have any discounts already in place then definitely go to ATT store as I have read Apple stores can not add discounts to plans.
even just call ATT and get a breakdown of the options.
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08-15-2008, 05:04 PM
So, to possibly get the pricing:
a) can I activate my old iPhone, or does the iPhone have to belong and already work for someone?
b) will the discount then appear online? meaning, do existing 1G iPhone account holders see the $199/$299 price? (i'm crossing my fingers to hope that the pricing then becomes updated here).
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08-15-2008, 07:34 PM
i have no idea about online, but yes if you have an active iphone account you are eligible to get the iphone 3G at the 199/299 prices.
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08-15-2008, 10:57 PM
It's sounding more like there's a cut off date (for old iPhone users).
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08-16-2008, 07:36 PM
perhaps; but I think the hofo forums made it fairly clear: I can buy the more 'expensive' 399/499 iphone now, but my deadline for buying yet another phone at a subsidized price does not change.
So, even if my contract is up in Jan. 2010, I can still buy an iPhone a year from now, and a few months before Jan. 2010, and get subsidized pricing for the next phone. But buying a year from now means, my contract will then extend two years from the purchase of the iPhone. Clear as mud. :D
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