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Old 05-17-2005, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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noticed its got a ir lens, does it have ir and if so what can it be used for?
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does not have an IR port... don't know what it is honestly, maybe the BT port?
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None of the IR ports on the phones were ever used to my knowledge.
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RIM implements it to keep the form factor the same throughout although there is, by design, no use for it and no way to enable it. Seems kinda silly but I gather it was a security concern in corporate environments. Same reason BT is limited to audio at the moment on the 7100/7290's.
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so the lens is kinda like a hood ornament on a car, no function, just looks
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I seem to recall actually seeing the IR LED's when I dismantled my 7230. I haven't been brave enough to do the same with my 7290.
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Yeah they're in there but they just serve no purpose aside from filling in the void where the mold didn't fill in the rest of the plastic shell. Seems kinda silly to think they put all that effort into the manufacturing process just to keep the look the same. I don't recall if they're physically wired into the hardware internally. Haven't taken the initiative to look online either as I'm at work at the moment.
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Blackberry's have a physical IR port on them, but at this time, because most of the larger customers are very security oriented (or so we think) it is not implemented in the software.

I would imagine RIM has/is/will be working on some different firmware revisions to where people can select the subset of features they want. I think maybe once BES IT policy is mature enough to give administrators a bit more flexibility this all may become a reality.

I think the IR port is for "future considerations" as opposed to wasting this that or the other thing. As BB apps become more prevalent, there may be more of a need for IR printing or such.

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corey@12mile:
Did you ever open a Blackberry? None of the newer devices (77xx and 7290) have a physical Irda part on the mainboard. So I doubt that RIM will ever release firmware with IrDa functionality.
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Blackberry's have a physical IR port on them, but at this time, because most of the larger customers are very security oriented (or so we think) it is not implemented in the software.

I would imagine RIM has/is/will be working on some different firmware revisions to where people can select the subset of features they want. I think maybe once BES IT policy is mature enough to give administrators a bit more flexibility this all may become a reality.

I think the IR port is for "future considerations" as opposed to wasting this that or the other thing. As BB apps become more prevalent, there may be more of a need for IR printing or such.

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I must be missing something... what does the IR port have to do with "security?" Maybe I have missed something. Like ACNST claimed it is merely for decoration. There is absolutely no "hardware" on the main board itself... I would imagine that once upon a time there was actually a IR port there when the 6 series and 7 series Blackberry's were first introduced.

IMO I think that since all the housing were mass produced in large quantities and the designers decided to keep it that way to avoid any type of confusion or unneccessary suspicions. Most of the consumers who use Blackberry's are older generations who likes to keep things the same, consistant and most importantly, familar. The "form factor" is very important for Blackberry as a company as no other manufactures have adopted similar design and form. The size of a Blackberry has almost became the official "tag" or brand name. Anyone who has used a Blackberry will be able to determine if someone else is also using a "Blackberry" simply because all the voice&data units all have the similar shapes and sizes. I am pretty confident to say that the desingers did not want to make any drastic changes in the cosmetics because they would lose some loyal customers who have become accustomed to Blackberry's.

I sell Blackberry's as well as other cellular devices for a living and I have noticed that customers who are looking to upgrade their BB devices are reluctant to upgrade to the 7100 series mainly because they don't want to be broken out of their comfort shell. In addition most cusotmers don't like the feel of the "new and improved" smaller sized 7100 series because of the way they look or feel in the customers hands, not to mention they have to "relearn" how to use the new "suretype."

So in conclusion, I believe that I the IR port was actually an IR port once upon a time but now it has become a "emblem" or simply for cosmetics.
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When i worked for them the plan was to use it for simple data transfer (ie. business contacts, calendar info, etc.) but that trend died off (palm used to push it a lot) and nobody actually used it so the hardware was left just for the ease of not having to redesign.

but i was still wondering if anyone made some apps for it (close up tv remote anyone?)
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corey@12mile:
Did you ever open a Blackberry?
Who doesn't?

Ancst, I think we may have just found the line between blackberry enthusiast and blackberry geek. That is the first thing I do before installing a new model.

Disassembly... ahhh... Disassembly...
(Give me a minute here)


The last one I had with an IR port was the 7230. The 7290 has the spot for it on the PCB and the case, but the chip (or whatever) isn't on there. I have a few spare... If anyone ever came out with an app that supported it, I was going to have some fun with the soldering iron. However, now I have an 8700 and the 7290 is in the drawer and forgotten... oh well...

As a side note, I think they actually removed the lens from the mold for the 7270 casing. I'll have to double-check tomorrow. I don't carry it as my bat-tool-belt is getting a little rediculous and two berries would just be pretentious.
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